Re: [Groff] \o and \z do not work for -Tutf8

2014-09-17 Thread hohe72
I was wrong. Dieresis is used in PinYin. The "Chinese for Beginners" (ISBN 7-5619-1117-3) I refer, also uses twice the size periods below the vowel to tag the accentuated syllable of a word. sorry Holger wrote (Thu, 7 Aug 2014 15:35:28 +0200): > > > [forward due to wrongly replied privatly

Re: [Groff] \o and \z do not work for -Tutf8

2014-08-07 Thread hohe72
[forward due to wrongly replied privatly -hh-] > Found a lot of lǜlǚ on the net but cannot check my papers this > month. Sorry. Syllables lu/lü and nu/nü may be ambiguous. It's the > only use of ü. Yep. > Wikipedia talks about a ü-free PinYin and Chinese use us-keyboards. Maybe for *ente

Re: [Groff] \o and \z do not work for -Tutf8

2014-08-05 Thread Bernd Warken
> Von: "Werner LEMBERG" > > If you want to create artificial glyphs using `.char' and friends for > -Tps or -Tdvi, please create a separate macro package so that pinyin > support can be loaded with `-mpinyin' or something similar. That looks good, the tmac dir looks interesting. > > For more id

Re: [Groff] \o and \z do not work for -Tutf8

2014-08-05 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Can these characters be made into new glyphs? `groff_char.7' is > already quite good for unusual characters - and these are mostly > available for `-Tutf8'. If someone could tell me, how to append new > glyphs, I would try to implement this. It's not clear to me what you mean with `append', p

Re: [Groff] \o and \z do not work for -Tutf8

2014-08-05 Thread Bernd Warken
> Von: "Ralph Corderoy" > > Bernd, I think you need to Google up `pinyin and unicode'. Yes, good isea. There is a complete setting for all `pinyin' characters in Unicode and has also many links to related web pages: http://www.sino.uni-heidelberg.de/course_resources/s02/py-vowels.htm There

Re: [Groff] \o and \z do not work for -Tutf8

2014-08-05 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> [...] it's the man program that tells the terminal to overstrike. > I think. The terminal (usually) doesn't overstrike. If you have GROFF_NO_SGR set, then grotty outputs and sequences, from which most of today's terminals print only the last , so boldness and underlines get lost. However, m

Re: [Groff] \o and \z do not work for -Tutf8

2014-08-05 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Keith, > > Both escapes are documented in Osanna/Kernioghan `CSTR 54' and many > > other ancient `roff' documentations. So `nroff' should be able to > > do that as well. Every typewriter could do such overstriking. > > But a video terminal is not a typewriter. Video terminals can display >

Re: [Groff] \o and \z do not work for -Tutf8

2014-08-05 Thread Ted Harding
On 05-Aug-2014 00:44:25 James K. Lowden wrote: > On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 23:19:41 +0100 > Keith Marshall wrote: > >> OTOH, when a typewriter overstrikes, the accumulation of all glyphs >> struck remains indelibly impressed on the printed page. > > [OT] > > The symbol set of APL took advantage of th

Re: [Groff] \o and \z do not work for -Tutf8

2014-08-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> For `gpinyin', the European-like Chinese, I need to create >> character overstrikes for the 1st (a macron) and the 3rd tone (a >> caron). To append an accent over the ü and Ü characters (u/U >> umlaut) for all 4 tones seems to be even more complex. > > Pin Yin doesn't use a ü glyph. This is n

Re: [Groff] \o and \z do not work for -Tutf8

2014-08-04 Thread James K. Lowden
On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 23:19:41 +0100 Keith Marshall wrote: > OTOH, when a typewriter overstrikes, the accumulation of all glyphs > struck remains indelibly impressed on the printed page. [OT] The symbol set of APL took advantage of that property. The language defines some 60 symbols, more than f

Re: [Groff] \o and \z do not work for -Tutf8

2014-08-04 Thread hohe72
"Bernd Warken" wrote (Mon, 4 Aug 2014 18:06:03 +0200): > For `gpinyin', the European-like Chinese, I need to create character > overstrikes for the 1st (a macron) and the 3rd tone (a caron). > To append an accent over the ü and Ü characters (u/U umlaut) for all > 4 tones seems to be even more com

Re: [Groff] \o and \z do not work for -Tutf8

2014-08-04 Thread Keith Marshall
On 04/08/14 17:06, Bernd Warken wrote: > For `gpinyin', the European-like Chinese, I need to create character > overstrikes for the 1st (a macron) and the 3rd tone (a caron). > To append an accent over the ü and Ü characters (u/U umlaut) for all > 4 tones seems to be even more complex. > > The ove

Re: [Groff] \o and \z do not work for -Tutf8

2014-08-04 Thread Dale Snell
On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 18:06:03 +0200 "Bernd Warken" wrote: > The overstrike with `\o' and `\z' preduce on `-Tpdf', etc., a plus > sign within the digit 0 for both escapes. But both escapes do not > work on `-Tutf8' or `nroff': > > $ echo "A\o'0+'\z0+Z" | nroff > A++Z > > which is wrong. Bernd,