Re: First impressions: strange groff default font behaviour after system upgrade

2023-12-19 Thread Oliver Corff
Hi Dave, you hit a weak spot. I've never intentionally worked with groff backend options (except for paper size) before, and I *should* have noticed that the switch -e calls eqn, and nothing but that. Only after having copied Deri's command line, I started to recognize my ignorance. The files cl

Re: First impressions: strange groff default font behaviour after system upgrade

2023-12-18 Thread Dave Kemper
On 12/18/23, Oliver Corff via wrote: > I tried to compile my minimal document again, with all combinations of > -e, -F /usr/share/fonts/urw35-base/ but nothing changes. The PDF file is > always 11771 bytes long. Embedding a font or a glyph should make a > difference, or not? Embedding a font will

Re: First impressions: strange groff default font behaviour after system upgrade

2023-12-18 Thread Deri
On Monday, 18 December 2023 21:49:55 GMT Oliver Corff wrote: > Hi Deri, > > Here we go. In the meantime I came to the conclusion that the dpdviewer > is at fault, or rather the viewer's setup; I forwarded the pdf to a > different system, and there everything was visible as intended. > > Best rega

Re: First impressions: strange groff default font behaviour after system upgrade

2023-12-18 Thread Oliver Corff
Hi Alexis, thank your for the quick pointer! I was totally unaware of that system. And, in addition, I wonder why evince and okular attempt start as root, id -a shows that I am in my non-privileged group, working in my regular shell. Still wondering *why* the viewers want to connect to a socket

Re: First impressions: strange groff default font behaviour after system upgrade

2023-12-18 Thread Alexis
Oliver Corff via writes: when starting evince I get the message Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /root/.cache/at-spi/bus_0: Permission denied Never seen this before, I even do not know what at-spi is. Same with okular. "at-spi" is "Assistive Technology

Re: First impressions: strange groff default font behaviour after system upgrade

2023-12-18 Thread Oliver Corff
Hi Deri, Here we go. In the meantime I came to the conclusion that the dpdviewer is at fault, or rather the viewer's setup; I forwarded the pdf to a different system, and there everything was visible as intended. Best regards, and thank you! Oliver. On 18/12/2023 22:34, Deri wrote: On Monday

Re: First impressions: strange groff default font behaviour after system upgrade

2023-12-18 Thread Deri
On Monday, 18 December 2023 21:07:16 GMT G. Branden Robinson wrote: > > > My first question: Is this new behaviour intended? > > Probably not. Oddly, not much earlier today, we got a similar report > from T. Kurt Bond about the URW fonts being troublesome--as in, not > found--in a groff build fr

Re: First impressions: strange groff default font behaviour after system upgrade

2023-12-18 Thread Deri
On Monday, 18 December 2023 20:57:07 GMT Oliver Corff wrote: > Dear All, > > today I upgraded my system from Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 which has the > appreciated side-effect that groff 1.23.0 is finally installed by default. > > I tested the new installation. As was to be expected, groffer was gone

Re: First impressions: strange groff default font behaviour after system upgrade

2023-12-18 Thread Oliver Corff via
Hi Branden, thank you for your quick response! I had just hit the send button, and the bell rang --- I saw T. Kurt Bond's incoming mail. What a coincidence. On 18/12/2023 22:07, G. Branden Robinson wrote: Hi Oliver, At 2023-12-18T21:57:07+0100, Oliver Corff wrote: Enter groff 1.23.0. I compi

Re: First impressions: strange groff default font behaviour after system upgrade

2023-12-18 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi Oliver, At 2023-12-18T21:57:07+0100, Oliver Corff wrote: > Enter groff 1.23.0. I compiled the same file again (a translation which > I had finished just this morning, not knowing what an escape I had*), > and alas! things took an unexpected course. First I looked for the > appearance of  ≤ and

First impressions: strange groff default font behaviour after system upgrade

2023-12-18 Thread Oliver Corff
Dear All, today I upgraded my system from Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 which has the appreciated side-effect that groff 1.23.0 is finally installed by default. I tested the new installation. As was to be expected, groffer was gone (I liked it for q&d test runs of code snippets, so I actually miss it.