Re: [Groff] mdoc considered harmful

2014-03-07 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Eric, Eric S. Raymond wrote on Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 04:03:49PM -0500: > Kristaps Dzonsons : >> esr wrote: >>> The effort required to get this far with mdoc was extreme even for >>> me. Thus I consider that effort very unlikely to be successfully >>> replicated - I doubt anyone else will have t

Re: [Groff] mdoc considered harmful

2014-03-07 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Ingo Schwarze : > Yes, .Xo/.Xc is slightly ugly, but you don't have to use it if > you don't like it. You can't tell me it's optional. It's in the corpus and doclifter has to cope with it somehow. > > The result is pure hell for anyone trying to interpret the mess with > > anything but groff it

Re: [Groff] mdoc considered harmful

2014-03-07 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Kristaps Dzonsons : > >The effort required to get this far with mdoc was extreme even for > >me. Thus I consider that effort very unlikely to be successfully > >replicated - I doubt anyone else will have the stamina required. > > Er... http://mdocml.bsd.lv? An implementation by the *designer of m

Re: [Groff] mdoc considered harmful

2014-03-07 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Eric, Eric S. Raymond wrote on Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 02:14:24PM -0500: > I've written an mdoc interpreter. It's in doclifter. And I'm here > to tell you why mdoc is not the solution you're looking for. Well, i already solved the problem with it, so you are somewhat late in warning me... :-D

Re: [Groff] mdoc considered harmful

2014-03-07 Thread Kristaps Dzonsons
The result is pure hell for anyone trying to interpret the mess with anything but groff itself. I believe I am the only person who has even tried this seriously. I managed to handle almost all of it, because I am exceptionally good at the kind of hacking required for the job. But not in fact all

[Groff] mdoc considered harmful

2014-03-07 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Anthony J. Bentley : > Funny, that looks almost exactly like what you posted. Since -mdoc > already exists, is shipped in man(1) with a great many systems > (certainly all the ones I've ever used), and already has thousands of > manpages written in it, why extend -man in a backwards incompatible >