Re: [Groff] Times-Roman v. Nimbus Roman No9 L Regular.

2016-05-06 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Deri, > The problem is that most installations are from compiled binaries, so > this step either needs to be done by the packager, who would then need > to make the URW fonts a dependency I wasn't thinking of the `U' foundry for URW fonts particularly, just that the package's post-install shou

Re: [Groff] Times-Roman v. Nimbus Roman No9 L Regular.

2016-05-05 Thread Deri James
On Thu 05 May 2016 15:13:34 Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Hi Deri, > > > One way to add the URW fonts post groff install is to run the > > BuildFoundries program after you have cd'd into the devpdf font > > directory. Within this directory you should find a file called > > "Foundry". Make sure line 68 i

Re: [Groff] Times-Roman v. Nimbus Roman No9 L Regular.

2016-05-05 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Deri, > One way to add the URW fonts post groff install is to run the > BuildFoundries program after you have cd'd into the devpdf font > directory. Within this directory you should find a file called > "Foundry". Make sure line 68 includes the path to the URW fonts, > then:- > > BuildFound

Re: [Groff] Times-Roman v. Nimbus Roman No9 L Regular.

2016-05-03 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> groff -P -y -P U -Tpdf z.tr > z.pdf > > Ah, no mention of Times, and Nimbus embedded. It's a big file though, > ~120,000 bytes compared with ~4,000 if -Tps and ps2pdf is used to also > embed Nimbus. I guess the latter picks just certain runes? gropdf is very simple; it doesn't subset font

Re: [Groff] Times-Roman v. Nimbus Roman No9 L Regular.

2016-05-03 Thread Deri James
On Tue 03 May 2016 10:53:45 Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Hi Werner, > > > > Should I be telling groff that I want to use those Nimbus fonts so > > > it uses their metrics rather than the "almost identical" Times' > > > ones? > > > > If you use the gropdf output device, try groff's `-P -y -P U' option

Re: [Groff] Times-Roman v. Nimbus Roman No9 L Regular.

2016-05-03 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Werner, > Hmm. It seems that Arch Linux doesn't set up the URW fonts. Bad. They deliberately try to alter upstream as little as possible, AIUI. https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk?h=packages/groff shows the PKGBUILD file that defines how to build the upstream source. I

Re: [Groff] Times-Roman v. Nimbus Roman No9 L Regular.

2016-05-03 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Werner, > > Should I be telling groff that I want to use those Nimbus fonts so > > it uses their metrics rather than the "almost identical" Times' > > ones? > > If you use the gropdf output device, try groff's `-P -y -P U' option > to use the URW fonts. Using -Tpdf gives a PDF that refers to T

Re: [Groff] Times-Roman v. Nimbus Roman No9 L Regular.

2016-05-03 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Should I be telling groff that I want to use those Nimbus fonts so it > uses their metrics rather than the "almost identical" Times' ones? If you use the gropdf output device, try groff's `-P -y -P U' option to use the URW fonts. Werner

Re: [Groff] Times-Roman v. Nimbus Roman No9 L Regular.

2016-05-03 Thread Ted Harding
On 03-May-2016 08:51:32 Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Hi, > > By default, groff uses Times Roman, as I'd expect. > > $ groff <<<'hello world!' | grep Times > %%DocumentNeededResources: font Times-Roman > %%IncludeResource: font Times-Roman > /Times-Roman@0 ENC0/Times-Roman RE > /F0

[Groff] Times-Roman v. Nimbus Roman No9 L Regular.

2016-05-03 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi, By default, groff uses Times Roman, as I'd expect. $ groff <<<'hello world!' | grep Times %%DocumentNeededResources: font Times-Roman %%IncludeResource: font Times-Roman /Times-Roman@0 ENC0/Times-Roman RE /F0 10/Times-Roman@0 SF(hello w)72 12 Q(orld!)-.1 E 0 Cg EP $ B