Re: "transparent" output and throughput, demystified

2024-09-06 Thread Dave Kemper
On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 2:31 PM Deri wrote: > if Dave wants to use use Spin̈al Tap > This seems to work:- > > printf ".ft TINOR\n.ps 18\nSpin\h'-5p'\[u0308]\h'+5p'al Tap\n.pdfbookmark 1 > Spi\[u006E_0308]al Tap"|test-groff -Tpdf -ms > Spin̈alTap.pdf Just want to point out that the \h escapes shoul

Re: "transparent" output and throughput, demystified

2024-09-05 Thread G. Branden Robinson
would help me any. Nah, why would anyone waste effort on THAT? Real hackers go straight to the source, every time. Specs are for suits. UTSL! > > Though some irritated Swede is bound to knock us about like tenpins > > if we keep deliberately misspelling "också" li

Re: "transparent" output and throughput, demystified

2024-09-05 Thread Deri
On Thursday, 5 September 2024 04:15:44 BST G. Branden Robinson wrote: > [fair warning: _gigantic_ message, 5.7k words] > Hi Deri & Dave, Hi Branden, > I'll quote Dave first since his message was brief and permits me to make > a concession early. > > At 2024-09-04T15:05:38-0500, Dave Kemper wro

Re: "transparent" output and throughput, demystified

2024-09-04 Thread G. Branden Robinson
[fair warning: _gigantic_ message, 5.7k words] Hi Deri & Dave, I'll quote Dave first since his message was brief and permits me to make a concession early. At 2024-09-04T15:05:38-0500, Dave Kemper wrote: > On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 11:04 AM Deri > wrote: > > The example using \[u012F] is superior

Re: "transparent" output and throughput, demystified

2024-09-04 Thread Dave Kemper
On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 11:04 AM Deri wrote: > The example using \ > [u012F] is superior (in my opinion) because it is using a single glyph the > font designer intended for that character rather than combining two glyphs > that don't marry up too well. I agree with this opinion. > If you know of

Re: "transparent" output and throughput, demystified

2024-09-04 Thread Deri
On Sunday, 1 September 2024 06:09:17 BST G. Branden Robinson wrote: > Hi Deri, > > At 2024-08-31T17:07:28+0100, Deri wrote: > > On Saturday, 31 August 2024 00:07:57 BST G. Branden Robinson wrote: > [fixing two of my own typos and one wordo in the following] > > > > It would be cleaner and simpler

Re: "transparent" output and throughput, demystified

2024-08-31 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi Deri, At 2024-08-31T17:07:28+0100, Deri wrote: > On Saturday, 31 August 2024 00:07:57 BST G. Branden Robinson wrote: [fixing two of my own typos and one wordo in the following] > > It would be cleaner and simpler to provide a mechanism for > > processing a string directly, discarding escape seq

Re: "transparent" output and throughput, demystified

2024-08-31 Thread Deri
On Saturday, 31 August 2024 00:07:57 BST G. Branden Robinson wrote: > It would be cleaner and simpler to provide a mechanism for processing a > string directly, discarding escape sequences (like vertical motions or > break points [with or without hyphenation). This point is even more > emphatic be

"transparent" output and throughput, demystified

2024-08-30 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi folks, Those of us who worked with groff 1.22.4 may remember a couple of diagnostic messages that gobsmacked one with their incomprehensibility. Here's the source code that produced them. error("can't transparently output node at top level"); error("can't translate %1 to special character