[Groff] Re: Manuals in pdf format

2006-07-16 Thread Karl Berry
Please note that the footer on page 4 (this is physical page 8) is one line lower than the footer on page 3 and 5. Thanks for the sample input. Turns out it was (I think) an easy bug to fix. Diff below, and updated ftp://tug.org/tex/texinfo.tex, among other places. Let me know if still

Re: [Groff] Re: Manuals in pdf format

2006-06-19 Thread Karl Berry
Perhaps it is possible to change them to roman, providing an @italicleaders command for backwards compatibility... I changed the leaders back to regular periods. Didn't bother with an option. We'll see if anyone notices. karl ___ Groff maili

Re: [Groff] Re: Manuals in pdf format

2006-06-04 Thread Karl Berry
Well, looking at them with a PDF viewer, they look really bad IMHO. Shrug. That's how I was looking at them. They don't look especially bad to me. Perhaps it is possible to change them to roman, providing an @italicleaders command for backwards compatibility... No, it's not worth a

Re: [Groff] Re: Manuals in pdf format

2006-06-03 Thread Karl Berry
> Incidentally, looking at the PDF file, I wonder what could possibly > be the purpose of using "italic" dots as leaders in the table of > contents? I have exactly the same question... It seems rms made the change nearly 13 years ago: Sun Nov 21 22:16:21 1993 Richard Stallman (

Re: [Groff] Re: Manuals in pdf format

2006-06-02 Thread Karl Berry
> Incidentally, looking at the PDF file, I wonder what could possibly > be the purpose of using "italic" dots as leaders in the table of > contents? I have exactly the same question... I wasn't aware that it was. Will look into it. karl

[Groff] Re: Manuals in pdf format

2006-06-01 Thread Karl Berry
PS: A related thing is the use of `Chapter:' in the header line. I consider this redundant; a simple number would be sufficient. Consequently, I would like to see @thissectionname, @thissecnum, and @thischapnum. I added @thischapternum for use in headers/footers. Doin

[Groff] Re: Manuals in pdf format

2006-06-01 Thread Karl Berry
BTW, a footer string as defined with @xxxfooting jumps up and down within the output -- this is *really* ugly, and I consider it as a severe typographical bug (I use texinfo 4.8). I cannot reproduce this with the current texinfo.tex (ftp://tug.org/tex/texinfo.tex). I added your line

[Groff] Re: [tex-live] groff support for MetaPost (and vice versa)

2006-03-12 Thread Karl Berry
Hi Werner, http://sarovar.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=493&group_id=230&atid=985 We would be glad if you could incorporate those patches and additional files. Assuming Taco et al. install the changes, I will look at the doc stuff for both web2c and metapost when the time comes ..

[Groff] groff mailing lists

2006-03-10 Thread Karl Berry
The bug-groff mailing list was previously accepting mail from anyone, thus unfortunately passing on plenty of spam. With Werner's approval, I've now configured it to hold messages from "strangers", so there may be a small delay for first-time posters. Werner was already moderating the groff and g

Re: [texinfo-pretest] [Groff] Manuals in pdf format

2006-03-10 Thread Karl Berry
Hi Werner, you select page `13' in acroread, you actually go to the page labeled `13' which is physical page 36 or so. To go to page `xiii', you have to type `xiii' in the `go to Page' dialogue. It's not clear to me that this is necessarily an improvement, if this behavior is unalter

[Groff] Re: Manuals in pdf format

2006-03-10 Thread Karl Berry
Hi Werner, Please add a proper @thissection command This means using marks, etc. Sorry, I don't plan to implement this any time soon, if ever. Maybe Stepan or someone else would like to work on it. @thissection{} isn't in the Texinfo manual any more (and hasn't been for years), because no