Re: [TUHS] Re: Old troff files (1988-2007)

2024-10-04 Thread Peter Yardley
This isn’t helpful, but the .G1 .G2 look a lot like Gerber codes used in NC machine tools. Sent from my iPhone > On 5 Oct 2024, at 1:52 pm, G. Branden Robinson > wrote: > > Hi Doug, > > At 2024-10-04T21:42:50+, Jacobson, Doug W [E CPE] via TUHS wrote: >> Folks: >> >> Long story short,

Very happy typesetting

2024-10-04 Thread Bento Borges Schirmer
Hi people, I just want to chime in, I've been using groff _a lot_ recently, and it's great! I've been using the mom macros extensively, it covers just so many cases, it's really useful. Documentation for groff, mom, ms, mm, I can always find answers. I've written a report for an operating systems

when to deprecate and when to withdraw features (was: Regressions in UTP document)

2024-10-04 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi Dave, At 2024-10-04T16:44:42-0500, Dave Kemper wrote: > On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 2:21 PM G. Branden Robinson > While I agree with Branden that notices of new warnings doesn't > require any special heads-up--a well-crafted warning should speak for > itself[1] One hopes... 😅 > --I think Deri's ge

Re: [TUHS] Old troff files (1988-2007)

2024-10-04 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi Doug, At 2024-10-04T21:42:50+, Jacobson, Doug W [E CPE] via TUHS wrote: > Folks: > > Long story short, I have a unpublished manuscript that a faculty > member in my department wrote late 1980's early 2000's. He did the > entire thing in troff, eqn, and pic. The faculty member is still >

blank pages in UTP document (was: Regressions in UTP document)

2024-10-04 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi Deri, Let me start a new thread for this topic. At 2024-10-04T23:04:17+0100, Deri wrote: > On Friday, 4 October 2024 20:21:13 BST G. Branden Robinson wrote: > > At 2024-10-04T16:41:19+0100, Deri wrote: > > > The fix in June did fix the original problem with page breaks in > > > the FBDL docume

Re: Regressions in UTP document (was: removing the .IX macro from the ms package in 1.23 breaks old documents)

2024-10-04 Thread Deri
On Friday, 4 October 2024 20:21:13 BST G. Branden Robinson wrote: > Hi Deri, > Hi Branden, > At 2024-10-04T16:41:19+0100, Deri wrote: > > > > The fix in June did fix the original problem with page breaks in the > > FBDL document that Michał was working on, but does not fix the problem > > with

Re: Regressions in UTP document (was: removing the .IX macro from the ms package in 1.23 breaks old documents)

2024-10-04 Thread Dave Kemper
On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 2:21 PM G. Branden Robinson wrote: > At 2024-10-04T16:41:19+0100, Deri wrote: > > I am certainly not against changes to groff, but I do think when we do > > alter groff in some way which will affect the typesetting of existing > > documents > > ...which the font warning chan

Re: removing the .IX macro from the ms package in 1.23 breaks old documents

2024-10-04 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2024-10-04T22:23:40+0200, Tadziu Hoffmann wrote: > I don't have any evidence other than > > a) empirically, it fixes Joerg's problem. > b) logically, it is necessary, as the leaders and the > pagenumber are attached to the end of the line, so one > needs to guarantee that there is

Re: removing the .IX macro from the ms package in 1.23 breaks old documents

2024-10-04 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> If we establish that this is a bug [...] > But I need evidence of that, and as yet I don't have it. I don't have any evidence other than a) empirically, it fixes Joerg's problem. b) logically, it is necessary, as the leaders and the pagenumber are attached to the end of the line, so

Re: removing the .IX macro from the ms package in 1.23 breaks old documents

2024-10-04 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi Joerg, At 2024-10-04T14:49:29+0200, joerg van den hoff wrote: > attached is an example. I tried to condense it and reduce those > MHEAD,SHEAD macros to a minimum (they are doing more in my actual > setup). so the missing SN numbers in the resulting TOC in this example > are not a bug :). > > t

Re: removing the .IX macro from the ms package in 1.23 breaks old documents

2024-10-04 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi Tadziu & Deri, At 2024-10-04T17:31:35+0200, Tadziu Hoffmann wrote: > [Deri wrote:] > > the most serious one is misalignment of page number column > > for entries which are long but seemingly fail to line > > break early enough. there are also instances where the line > > break just occurs too l

Re: Regressions in UTP document (was: removing the .IX macro from the ms package in 1.23 breaks old documents)

2024-10-04 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi Deri, At 2024-10-04T16:41:19+0100, Deri wrote: > > > The extra blank pages and the erroneous bookmarks are probably > > > linked and seem to be caused by commit > > > 5808f3f4dd8f39341170597363a6aaf7acf921fd, which was a fix to a > > > regression introduced into 1.23.0. > > > > Ah, you in fact

Re: Regressions in UTP document (was: removing the .IX macro from the ms package in 1.23 breaks old documents)

2024-10-04 Thread Deri
On Friday, 4 October 2024 02:53:02 BST G. Branden Robinson wrote: > Hi Deri, > Hi Branden, > > The extra blank pages and the erroneous bookmarks are probably linked > > and seem to be caused by commit > > 5808f3f4dd8f39341170597363a6aaf7acf921fd, which was a fix to a > > regression introduced int

Re: removing the .IX macro from the ms package in 1.23 breaks old documents

2024-10-04 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> the most serious one is misalignment of page number column > for entries which are long but seemingly fail to line > break early enough. there are also instances where the line > break just occurs too late w/o causing page number column > misalignment (this seems to be the case when no further

Re: removing the .IX macro from the ms package in 1.23 breaks old documents

2024-10-04 Thread joerg van den hoff
correction regarding the "long entries that do line break do not honour indent": this probably is technically not a bug since in the original context the entries do have the form SN[tab]entry the SN is missing in the example so the entries in fact all start with \t and when line break occurs t

Re: removing the .IX macro from the ms package in 1.23 breaks old documents

2024-10-04 Thread joerg van den hoff
On 03.10.24 23:21, G. Branden Robinson wrote: At 2024-10-03T23:06:18+0200, joerg van den hoff wrote: table of content when using ms macros (wide entries failing to line break and "pushing" the page number out of line to the right instead). I cannot say, however, whether this is a 1.23-related

Re: Regressions in UTP document (was: removing the .IX macro from the ms package in 1.23 breaks old documents)

2024-10-04 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2024-10-04T04:09:12-0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > My hypothesis is that I wrote incorrect generated *roff in > src/preproc/tbl/table.cpp. I know where to look, and thanks to this > information I have a pretty good idea how to write a regression test for > this problem so that this bug, lik