Re: eqn formatting issues with grops and gropdf

2022-07-27 Thread Robert Goulding
I tend to agree. I've always thought that the italic Greek letters in eqn output look very odd, and unlike anything I usually see in mathematical texts. On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 5:48 PM DJ Chase wrote: > On Wed Jul 27, 2022 at 4:54 PM EDT, Robert Goulding wrote: > > That seems to work! The only d

Re: eqn formatting issues with grops and gropdf

2022-07-27 Thread DJ Chase
On Wed Jul 27, 2022 at 4:54 PM EDT, Robert Goulding wrote: > That seems to work! The only downside (if it is one), is that Greek in > mathematical expressions is now also unslanted (see attached). That's no > big deal for me, as I almost never have Greek text and mathematics in the > same document

Re: eqn formatting issues with grops and gropdf

2022-07-27 Thread Deri
On Wednesday, 27 July 2022 21:58:13 BST Robert Goulding wrote: > Though of course, it's the same behavior that one sees if going the devps > and ps2pdf route. The pdfs are now visually identical. And, in a sense, the > behavior is now consistent with the introduction of the new font family. If > yo

Re: eqn formatting issues with grops and gropdf

2022-07-27 Thread Robert Goulding
Though of course, it's the same behavior that one sees if going the devps and ps2pdf route. The pdfs are now visually identical. And, in a sense, the behavior is now consistent with the introduction of the new font family. If your main text font now includes all the Greek glyphs, naturally troff wi

Re: eqn formatting issues with grops and gropdf

2022-07-27 Thread Deri
On Tuesday, 26 July 2022 20:34:39 BST Robert Goulding wrote: > Thanks - It would take some work, I think, to make the character names > emitted by preconv match up with those in rfc1345 (but that maybe worth > doing as a comprehensive solution). In the past, I've simply redefined the > Greek letter

Re: man(7) .TH font change (was: groff man(7) `B` macro)

2022-07-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Branden, G. Branden Robinson wrote on Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 10:38:47AM -0500: > At 2022-06-18T21:05:09+0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> The header line does not contain a cross reference, so there is no >> justification for marking it up in the same way as a cross reference. > I think there is, b

Re: All caps .TH page title

2022-07-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Branden, G. Branden Robinson wrote on Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 10:44:47AM -0500: > At 2022-07-24T16:57:19+0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> But dismissing decade-old *BSD standards like the use of /usr/ for the >> base system and /usr/local/ for packages as a standard violation, and >> promoting /opt/

Re: man -M tcl (was: All caps .TH page title)

2022-07-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Alejandro, Alejandro Colomar wrote on Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 06:17:40PM +0200: > On 7/24/22 16:57, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> I even considered supporting aliases for manpath directories >> in man.conf(5), something like being able to say >> >>alias tcl /usr/local/lib/tcl/tcl8.5/man/ >> >> in

Re: eqn formatting issues with grops and gropdf

2022-07-27 Thread joerg van den hoff
On 27.07.22 14:29, Deri wrote: On Wednesday, 27 July 2022 08:49:01 BST joerg van den hoff wrote: hi deri, thanks a lot for bothering. have read and understood everything. this is all interesting and mostly was unknown to me so far. I also tried out your manual slanting suggestion for grops wi

Re: [PATCH v3] NULL.3const: Add documentation for NULL

2022-07-27 Thread Douglas McIlroy
I agree with all of Ingo's comments. A man page is a reference, not a history, not a tutorial, not a style guide, There s nothing to say about NULL beyond it's being a synonym for the constant 0 converted to the null pointer. Other facts about the behavior of null pointers will have been learned ho

Re: [PATCH v3] NULL.3const: Add documentation for NULL

2022-07-27 Thread Alejandro Colomar
Hi Ingo, On 7/27/22 12:49, Ingo Schwarze wrote: Hi Alejandro, Alejandro Colomar wrote on Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 02:02:56PM +0200: On 7/25/22 20:49, Ingo Schwarze wrote: Alejandro Colomar wrote on Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 09:19:32PM +0200: +.B 0 There is really no need to mark up integer const

Re: Using tbl(1) for structure definitions

2022-07-27 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Alex, > > .\" Start table. > > .de1 TS > > . \" If continuous rendering, tell tbl not to use keeps. > > . ie \\n[cR] .nr 3usekeeps 0 > > . el .nr 3usekeeps 1 > > . sp \\n[PD]u > > . if \\n[an-is-output-html] \{\ > > .nr an-TS-ll \\n[.l] > > .ll 1000n > > . \} > > . HTML-I

Re: eqn formatting issues with grops and gropdf

2022-07-27 Thread Deri
On Wednesday, 27 July 2022 08:49:01 BST joerg van den hoff wrote: > hi deri, > > thanks a lot for bothering. have read and understood everything. this is all > interesting and mostly was unknown to me so far. I also tried out your > manual slanting suggestion for grops with S font. this is all goo

Re: Using tbl(1) for structure definitions

2022-07-27 Thread Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
HI Branden, On 7/27/22 02:12, G. Branden Robinson wrote: Hi Alex, At 2022-07-26T21:33:07+0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote: I've already read all that was relevant to me from tbl(1) regarding what I had in mind: documenting structures. Okay. Apart from those two nits I didn't get any other feed

Re: [PATCH v3] NULL.3const: Add documentation for NULL

2022-07-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Alejandro, Alejandro Colomar wrote on Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 02:02:56PM +0200: > On 7/25/22 20:49, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Alejandro Colomar wrote on Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 09:19:32PM +0200: >>> +.B 0 >> There is really no need to mark up integer constants. > groff_man_style(7): >

Re: Using tbl(1) for structure definitions

2022-07-27 Thread Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
Hi Ralph, On 7/27/22 08:41, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Alex, +.TS +l lB lB l1 lX. +\& u64 flags; /* T{ +.BR O_ * +flags */ +T} +\& u64 mode; /* T{ +Mode for +.BR O_ { CREAT , TMPFILE } +*/ +T} The inline font escapes, \fB...\fP, were much more readable because I co

Re: [PATCH v4] NULL.3const: Add documentation for NULL

2022-07-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Alejandro Colomar wrote on Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 08:47:59PM +0200: > On 7/26/22 17:54, G. Branden Robinson wrote: >> Alejandro Colomar wrote: >>> +.SH NOTES >>> +The following headers also provide >>> +.BR NULL : >>> +.IR , >>> +.IR , >>> +.IR , >>> +.IR , >>> +.IR , >>> +.IR , >>> +and

Re: eqn formatting issues with grops and gropdf

2022-07-27 Thread joerg van den hoff
hi deri, thanks a lot for bothering. have read and understood everything. this is all interesting and mostly was unknown to me so far. I also tried out your manual slanting suggestion for grops with S font. this is all good and well so far :). however, I presume that there really remains some

Re: installed 'gropdf' incorrectly used for compilation

2022-07-27 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Branden, > Werner wrote: > > strace -f make &> strace.log > > There are going to be a _lot_ of system calls. Since only ones which use a path are of interest, restrict the trace to just those. strace -fe %file make -- Cheers, Ralph.