Re: weird \s

2020-03-30 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Branden, > To the broader group, I would furthermore suggest that, being GNU roff, > it might behoove us to preserve the above "accident of history" only in > compatibility mode, and have the \sn form accept only a single-digit > argument for consistency with other escape forms. Doug still wou

Re: weird \s

2020-03-30 Thread Steve Izma
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:53:23PM -0400, Doug McIlroy wrote: > Subject: Re: weird \s > > Did the author of groff steal the code from Bell Labs? Or did > he merely read the code and preserve the feature in a misguided > nod to backward compatibility? Did he find it by experiment? My understandi

Re: weird \s

2020-03-30 Thread Doug McIlroy
Thanks for spotting the facts in info, a jungle I rarely enter. Especially for groff, for which groff(7) is quite a comprehensive reference. The difference between \s39 and \s40 is a documented living fossil! Clearly this dates from the first CAT phototypesetter's limited range of point sizes: 6

RE: weird \s

2020-03-30 Thread Jennifer Sayers
Dear Everyone, Brian Kernighan's paper "A TROFF Tutorial" goes into detail about how these things were parsed back in the day and why. This is perhaps the "accident of history"? jen. From: groff [groff-bounces+jennifer.sayers=sydney.edu...@gnu.org] on b

Re: weird \s

2020-03-30 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2020-03-30T19:16:56-0400, Doug McIlroy wrote: > Does anyone else see the following behavior? > Version 1.22.4 handles \s correctly up to \s39, but > truncates a size of 40 or greater to its first > digit. Here are two screen shots, with ^D edited in > to show where input ends and output begins.

Re: weird \s

2020-03-30 Thread Robert Thorsby
On 31/03/20 10:16:56, Doug McIlroy wrote: Does anyone else see the following behavior? Version 1.22.4 handles \s correctly up to \s39, but truncates a size of 40 or greater to its first digit. Good morning Doug, The info page for my version 1.21 has the following: `\sN' Set the point size t

Re: weird \s

2020-03-30 Thread Clarke Echols
I've used troff since the 1980s, and I've NEVER used that form for defining point size. Instead, I used .ps to establish the point size, then \s+nn where I've used values up to 15 or perhaps more -- don't recall for sure. I then us \s0 to return to the original value before the change. Same

weird \s

2020-03-30 Thread Doug McIlroy
Does anyone else see the following behavior? Version 1.22.4 handles \s correctly up to \s39, but truncates a size of 40 or greater to its first digit. Here are two screen shots, with ^D edited in to show where input ends and output begins. groff | tail -5 \s39 hello ^D %%EndPageSetup /F0 39/Times-

Re: mom footnote belonging to a Heading

2020-03-30 Thread Heinz-Jürgen Oertel
Hello Peter, Am Montag, 30. März 2020, 18:26:22 CEST schrieb Peter Schaffter: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020, Heinz-Jürgen Oertel wrote: > > Am Montag, 30. März 2020, 09:47:17 CEST schrieb Heinz-Jürgen Oertel: > > > I did, and now it looks very good for me. For now it's a good > > > solution for me. > >

Re: mom footnote belonging to a Heading

2020-03-30 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020, Heinz-Jürgen Oertel wrote: > Am Montag, 30. März 2020, 09:47:17 CEST schrieb Heinz-Jürgen Oertel: > > I did, and now it looks very good for me. For now it's a good > > solution for me. > > I did not look close enough, only for the heading and the > footnote. Sorry. After a

Re: mom footnote belonging to a Heading

2020-03-30 Thread Heinz-Jürgen Oertel
Am Montag, 30. März 2020, 04:00:37 CEST schrieb Peter Schaffter: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020, Heinz-Jürgen Oertel wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 29. März 2020, 22:04:57 CEST schrieb Peter Schaffter: > > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, Heinz-Jürgen Oertel wrote: > > > > I have a need to place a foote note to a HEADING,