Re: [groff] improve a few terminal renderings of special characters

2018-08-20 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> some time ago, we already improved the terminal renderings of many > characters, in particular mathematical ones. Having another look > at groff_char(7) and how it renders with groff versus mandoc, i > just fixed some issues in mandoc, but for the following cases, i > think it would be better to

[groff] improve a few terminal renderings of special characters

2018-08-20 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, some time ago, we already improved the terminal renderings of many characters, in particular mathematical ones. Having another look at groff_char(7) and how it renders with groff versus mandoc, i just fixed some issues in mandoc, but for the following cases, i think it would be better to twea

Re: [groff] Creating a numbered list without macros

2018-08-20 Thread Jeff Conrad
Tadziu Hoffmann wrote on Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 11:22:44PM +0200: > > I would like to add that I sometimes get the > > impression that people think that once they use a macro > > package, raw formatter requests should not be used anymore, > > as they somehow taint the "purity" of the manuscript. > >

Re: [groff] Creating a numbered list without macros

2018-08-20 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Tadziu, Tadziu Hoffmann wrote on Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 11:22:44PM +0200: > Peter Schaffter wrote: >> A macro package does not hide the controls any more than writing >> macros yourself does. A macro package aggregates the requests >> needed to perform typesetting functions for convenience, not

Re: [groff] Creating a numbered list without macros

2018-08-20 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> A macro package does not hide the controls any more than writing > macros yourself does. A macro package aggregates the requests > needed to perform typesetting functions for convenience, not > opacity. Well said. I would like to add that I sometimes get the impression that people think that

Re: [groff] Creating a numbered list without macros

2018-08-20 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, Holger Herrlich wrote: > First lets assume that here is a diametral contradistinction between > plain groff and a macro package like mom in terms of user interface. > The first provides you all the controls to type set. The latter hides > that controls as much as possible, cla

Re: [groff] Creating a numbered list without macros

2018-08-20 Thread Holger Herrlich
Sorry, the former mail was an Hot-Key-Accident (sticky keys and focus follows mouse) and my first reply a misdirecting filter rule. While it's kinda hard, using few words, to claim that here is use for private macro sets between plain groff and "don't care" frameworks, I was trying and then ..

Re: [groff] [off-topic] Reliable use of errno

2018-08-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 03:08:26PM +0100, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Hi Colin, > > > Writing "== -1" implies a reading that any other value would indicate > > success; > > Or it implies it's being coded to the spec. If your program explicitly handles unspecified return values and handles those as a

Re: [groff] soelim: Ignoring Some ’so’ Requests

2018-08-20 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Jeff, > I think it’s better to use “'” than a space because what’s going on is > more readily apparent—at least to those who understand the idiom. And even to those that don't, it stands out more than whitespace, especially given whitespace after the `.' is more common these days for control-f