Re: [groff] Brian Kernighan on the evoution of eqn, pic, grap, into troff

2018-05-04 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> Computer Science - Brian Kernighan on successful language design > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg4U4r_AgJU > "How to succeed in language design without really trying." Very interesting. It's somewhat amusing to see that already in 1961 (!) the proliferation of languages was considered a Ba

Re: [groff] hyphenation issues

2018-05-04 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2018-05-04T23:30:15+0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > > Going forward, should groff generate a warning if a document > > contains an undefined value of .hy, so that this problem will not > > recur with any future changes? > > This makes sense. I currently can't remember whether other, similar >

Re: [groff] Brian Kernighan on the evoution of eqn, pic, grap, into troff

2018-05-04 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> > Interestingly he mispronounces TeX as Tech > So do I these days. Isn't that correct? Depends how you pronounce "Tech". :-) If you pronounce it "tek" (as in "technology"), then it's wrong. According to Knuth, the "ch" is supposed to be pronounced as in the Scottish "loch". (If you don't k

Re: [groff] Brian Kernighan on the evoution of eqn, pic, grap, into troff

2018-05-04 Thread John Gardner
I do too. Always have, and saying "Tecks" just sounds unnatural to me. =) > Isn't that correct? Yes, from the words of Knuth himself, I believe. In other words, I still refuse to humour Steve Wilhite by NOT pronouncing "GIF" as "Jiff". =) CompuServe can consider it payback for the patent scare.

Re: [groff] Brian Kernighan on the evoution of eqn, pic, grap, into troff

2018-05-04 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Steffen, > Interestingly he mispronounces TeX as Tech So do I these days. Isn't that correct? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TeX#Pronunciation_and_spelling -- Cheers, Ralph. https://plus.google.com/+RalphCorderoy

Re: [groff] Brian Kernighan on the evoution of eqn, pic, grap, into troff

2018-05-04 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Mike Bianchi wrote: |True confession: Brian Kernighan is my hero. (stories upon request) | |In this talk, starting at about 41:45, he talks about the history of \ |creating |the eqn, pic, grap "little languages". |I offer it for those who might want a sense of how groff wound up where \ |

Re: [groff] Brian Kernighan on the evoution of eqn, pic, grap, into troff

2018-05-04 Thread John Gardner
*> Interestingly, Brian repeatedly says "troff's time has past".* Oh? We'll see about that. =) On 5 May 2018 at 07:39, Mike Bianchi wrote: > True confession: Brian Kernighan is my hero. (stories upon request) > > In this talk, starting at about 41:45, he talks about the history of > creating

[groff] Brian Kernighan on the evoution of eqn, pic, grap, into troff

2018-05-04 Thread Mike Bianchi
True confession: Brian Kernighan is my hero. (stories upon request) In this talk, starting at about 41:45, he talks about the history of creating the eqn, pic, grap "little languages". I offer it for those who might want a sense of how groff wound up where it is and why it survives. Interesting

Re: [groff] hyphenation issues

2018-05-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Going forward, should groff generate a warning if a document > contains an undefined value of .hy, so that this problem will not > recur with any future changes? This makes sense. I currently can't remember whether other, similar flag registers exhibit similar behaviour. Werner

Re: [groff] hyphenation issues

2018-05-04 Thread Dave Kemper
Hi Werner, I know groff isn't your primary focus anymore, so I'm pleased to see you've tackled these hyphenation bugs and enhancements. On 3/1/18, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > o The `.hy' request should now work as documented (again). > Additionally, I've added values 16 and 32 to hyphenate before

Re: [groff] Now online: gropdf / grops previewer

2018-05-04 Thread John Gardner
Hey Ralph, Sorry about the slow reply: I missed your email completely! Didn't even notice that you'd responded... > Am I right in understanding your Javascript asks the widget to > render some text in a particular font, size, and location, and what > pixels are set, e.g. for anti-aliasing, are u