Re: [Groff] lacking characters in groff_char.man

2014-05-27 Thread Deri James
On Tue 27 May 2014 19:55:34 Bernd Warken wrote: > The following characters can't be shown with groff_char.man: > > \[.j] \e[.j] dotlessju0237 j without a dot > \[vA] \e[vA] uni21D5 u21D5 vertical double arrow in both directions > \[-+] \e[-+] uni2213 u2213 minus-plus > \[coproduc

[Groff] special characters in groff.7

2014-05-27 Thread Bernd Warken
The notes in `groff_char.7' are complete now, that makes this man-page into a useful information center. The man-page `groff.7' has a section about `special characters'. This section is not really useful. It is far from being complete. I see the following kinds of improvement: 1) Omit all exampl

[Groff] lacking characters in groff_char.man

2014-05-27 Thread Bernd Warken
The following characters can't be shown with groff_char.man: \[.j] \e[.j] dotlessju0237 j without a dot \[vA] \e[vA] uni21D5 u21D5 vertical double arrow in both directions \[-+] \e[-+] uni2213 u2213 minus-plus \[coproduct]\e[coproduct] uni2210 u2210 coproduct \[u2661

Re: [Groff] `groff_char.7' works only for `man', but not for `groff'

2014-05-27 Thread Bernd Warken
> Von: ted.hard...@wlandres.net > > My own feelings about this sort of question is that grog is a > facility which can have its uses, but is not one which I would > recommend for general use. The reason is that it sets up a > command line which is formed in terms of requests that grog > detects in

Re: [Groff] `groff_char.7' works only for `man', but not for `groff'

2014-05-27 Thread Ted Harding
On 27-May-2014 15:37:35 Werner LEMBERG wrote: > >> Why not allowing (not forcing) this additional first line also for >> every other files written in some `groff' language document? > > You rather mean: Why not make groff accept such a line to invoke > preprocessors? > > I think that this approa

[Groff] character u21D5 is not available in groff

2014-05-27 Thread Bernd Warken
The following line is from groff_char.man: \[vA] \e[vA] uni21D5 u21D5 vertical double arrow in both directions I couldn't find this character \[vA]. Some idea? Bernd Warken

Re: [Groff] `groff_char.7' works only for `man', but not for `groff'

2014-05-27 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Why not allowing (not forcing) this additional first line also for > every other files written in some `groff' language document? You rather mean: Why not make groff accept such a line to invoke preprocessors? I think that this approach is too simplistic; for example, it doesn't allow for prep

Re: [Groff] `groff_char.7' works only for `man', but not for `groff'

2014-05-27 Thread Bernd Warken
> Von: "Werner LEMBERG" > > > Now grog accepts not only the 4 characters, but all 8 from groff's > > options. That will not hurt anything. > > Well, yes, but currently only `man' interprets this comment, and `man' > exclusively wants a leading ' and nothing else... > > > How about handling thi

Re: [Groff] `groff_char.7' works only for `man', but not for `groff'

2014-05-27 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> I suggest that grog accepts >> >> .\" t >> >> under protest only, this is, it emits a warning that the line should >> be changed to >> >> '\" t > > The protest of grog will come later. Thanks. > Now grog accepts not only the 4 characters, but all 8 from groff's > options. That will not h

Re: [Groff] `groff_char.7' works only for `man', but not for `groff'

2014-05-27 Thread Bernd Warken
> Von: "Werner LEMBERG" > Betreff: Re: [Groff] `groff_char.7' works only for `man', but not for `groff' > > >> I changed grog, such that lines starting with . (period) or ' > >> (apostrophe) are both regarded as equal (only within `grog'). > > > > Why? I guess users are more likely rely on man(1