On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 11:46:32 +
Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> > > man pages don't really need expressive typography.
> >
> > Man pages are constrained by xterm. A better display system would
> > invite tables, graphs, equations, and links.
>
> I don't think they are. Or they didn't used to b
While we are (slightly) digressing, may I ask the broader group, what are the
best current tutorials for Groff?
Most of the material I know of is… rather dated. Not necessarily bad, but not
very recent either - and not very concise, either. What do you point to get
new users started? What’s th
> Three browsers, three layouts (surf uses webkit).
Hmmm, well, I suspect if you used groff with -Tlatin1, -Tlj4,
-Tdvi, and -Tps you might also get four different layouts...
Simply consider different browsers like different devices.
> Firefox's is perfect!
It's better than the others, but I w
On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> Hi Walter,
>
>> Man pages are not tutorials or complete manuals
>
> Yes they are, or should be. They used to be. I learnt Perl 4 from
> perl(1). Back then it was a single long man page, well-written by an
> experienced Unix hand, Larry Wa
No, despite the Typos. Three browsers, three layouts (surf uses
webkit). Firefox's is perfect!
Holger
"Eric S. Raymond" wrote (Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:42:52
-0500):
> hoh...@arcor.de :
> > > Some years ago I enhanced geqn so it can emit MathML.
> >
> > What did I wrong?
>
> To emit MathXML get
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 01:19:14PM +, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> Hi Walter,
>
>> Man pages are not tutorials or complete manuals
>
> Yes they are, or should be. They used to be. I learnt Perl 4 from
> perl(1). Back then it was a single long man page, well-written by an
> experienced Unix hand,
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 04:08:45PM +, Deri James wrote:
>>On Wed 26 Feb 2014 10:19:07 Mike Bianchi wrote:
>>> I cannot find  man.config  or any reference to it in Debian 7.4
>>(wheezy).
>It looks like on debian the answer is to create a shell script called
>"mandb_tfmt"
On Wed 26 Feb 2014 10:19:07 Mike Bianchi wrote:
> I cannot find man.config or any reference to it in Debian 7.4 (wheezy).
> 2.6.2 2012-06-18 MAN(1)
> Only manpath.config .
>
> What am I missing?
>
> --
> Mike Bianchi
> Foveal Systems
>
> 973 822-2085
It looks like on debian t
hoh...@arcor.de :
> > Some years ago I enhanced geqn so it can emit MathML.
>
> What did I wrong?
To emit MathXML getqn needs an option that is not suppliued by the normal
groff pipeline.
--
http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
Hi Mike,
> > It may be necessary to alter the man.config command I gave for other
> > pdf readers.
>
> I cannot find man.config or any reference to it in Debian 7.4
> (wheezy).
> 2.6.2 2012-06-18 MAN(1)
> Only manpath.config .
>
> What am I missing?
Perhaps Deri's using BSD.
http:/
On 02/25/2014 11:59 PM, Volker Wolfram wrote:
Hi all groffers,
in fact I'm a newbie on groff tools and macros. But these tools are the BEST
I've used EVER. I enjoy groff so much, I've developed my
own three side perspective CAD macro to made my needs. And a macro for
electrical and pipe sche
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 02:42:45PM +, Deri James wrote:
> :
> It may be necessary to alter the man.config command I gave for
> other pdf readers.
I cannot find man.config or any reference to it in Debian 7.4 (wheezy).
2.6.2 2012-06-18 MAN(1)
Only manpath.config .
What am
On 02/26/2014 06:33 AM, Tadziu Hoffmann wrote:
Man pages are not tutorials or complete manuals
Yes they are, or should be. They used to be.
Fairly complete manuals, yes; tutorials, I don't think they
ever were. The manual page for the fortran compiler says what
the compiler options are
"Eric S. Raymond" wrote (Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:29:00
-0500):
> hoh...@arcor.de :
> > I don't got to what extend the support of web/ html features shall
> > be supported -- catchword: use case. For instance, will eqn code be
> > traversed to MathJax?
>
> Some years ago I enhanced geqn so it can e
On Wed 26 Feb 2014 13:46:22 Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
> What do you want in a man page? Videos? 3D holograms?
Only if they would help give an answer to the question you are trying to
answer!
> XTerm does not constrain nothing. It does what is expected from a
terminal.
> Do you think y
Hi Tadziu,
> > > Man pages are not tutorials or complete manuals
> >
> > Yes they are, or should be. They used to be.
>
> Fairly complete manuals, yes; tutorials, I don't think they ever
> were.
Yes, I was referring only to the "complete manuals" bit. Thanks for
pointing out my ambiguity. I
> > Man pages are not tutorials or complete manuals
>
> Yes they are, or should be. They used to be.
Fairly complete manuals, yes; tutorials, I don't think they
ever were. The manual page for the fortran compiler says what
the compiler options are -- it does not teach you programming
in fortr
Volker Wolfram wrote:
|Hi all groffers,
|
|in fact I'm a newbie on groff tools and macros. But these \
|tools are the BEST I've used EVER. I enjoy groff so much, I've developed my
I fully agree -- after almost going stony because of loosing
system content _and_ the backups (forgotten PGP pass
hoh...@arcor.de :
> I don't got to what extend the support of web/ html features shall be
> supported -- catchword: use case. For instance, will eqn code be
> traversed to MathJax?
Some years ago I enhanced geqn so it can emit MathML.
--
http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond
Hi Walter,
> Man pages are not tutorials or complete manuals
Yes they are, or should be. They used to be. I learnt Perl 4 from
perl(1). Back then it was a single long man page, well-written by an
experienced Unix hand, Larry Wall. I learnt ed and sed the same way
many years before that. And
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 12:00:53PM +, Deri James wrote:
> On Wed 26 Feb 2014 11:46:32 Ralph Corderoy wrote:
>> Hi jkl,
>>
man pages don't really need expressive typography.
>>>
>>> Man pages are constrained by xterm. A better display system would
>>> invite tables, graphs, equations, and
On Wed 26 Feb 2014 11:46:32 Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> Hi jkl,
>
> > > man pages don't really need expressive typography.
> >
> > Man pages are constrained by xterm. A better display system would
> > invite tables, graphs, equations, and links.
>
> I don't think they are. Or they didn't used to b
Hi jkl,
> > man pages don't really need expressive typography.
>
> Man pages are constrained by xterm. A better display system would
> invite tables, graphs, equations, and links.
I don't think they are. Or they didn't used to be. It was common to
see man pages with `.if n' and `.if t', w
Hi Eric,
> Peter wrote:
> > I think what happened is that, over time, near-exclusive use of the
> > PostScript driver caused many of us to confuse groff output with
> > grops output--if not intellectually, at least at the conceptual
> > level. We began to think of groff as a PostScript typesettin
Volker Wolfram wrote (Wed, 26 Feb 2014
07:59:35 +0100):
> And as a newbie I don't know about the code and design of groff. But
> I've changed from LaTeX to groff because it is simple and easy to
> understand.
+1
Using Groff features a learning curve with raising success.
> And that is very cool
I don't got to what extend the support of web/ html features shall be
supported -- catchword: use case. For instance, will eqn code be
traversed to MathJax?
Holger
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