Re: [Groff] Eric Raymond on groff and TeX

2012-05-08 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> > groff to XML to HTML via doclifter produces better HTML than any of >> > the direct groff -> HTML tools. >> >> Sadly, this is true. grohtml would need a big hug with much love to >> grow up, but currently nobody really takes care of it. > > The problem is fundamental - a good conversion nee

Re: [Groff] Eric Raymond on groff and TeX

2012-05-08 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Werner LEMBERG : > > > groff to XML to HTML via doclifter produces better HTML than any of > > the direct groff -> HTML tools. > > Sadly, this is true. grohtml would need a big hug with much love to > grow up, but currently nobody really takes care of it. The problem is fundamental - a good con

Re: [Groff] Eric Raymond on groff and TeX

2012-05-08 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> groff to XML to HTML via doclifter produces better HTML than any of > the direct groff -> HTML tools. Sadly, this is true. grohtml would need a big hug with much love to grow up, but currently nobody really takes care of it. Werner

Re: [Groff] Eric Raymond on groff and TeX

2012-05-08 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Peter Schaffter : > Larry's correct, too, about transforming groff markup to other > languages. As Steve can attest, I think, it's generally simpler to > convert groff markup into acceptable XML than to produce good pdfs > from XML filtered through groff. Automated groff to XML is hard, but with

Re: [Groff] Eric Raymond on groff and TeX

2012-05-08 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Tue, May 08, 2012, Larry Kollar wrote: > But I think there's room for a third kind of markup. I > call it *humanist* markup. Humanist markup has structure — > headings, lists, paragraphs, are easy to denote and > separated from presentation. The markup is simple to > transform to other language

Re: [Groff] Eric Raymond on groff and TeX

2012-05-08 Thread Larry Kollar
Anton Shepelev wrote: > I think, groff and TeX macro packages do provide a > means for structural mark-up, and, considering the > example above, it is of course possible to redefine > the macro .B to achieve the desired result? For > clarity, it could also be renamed as "EMPH". > > I

Re: [Groff] U+0027, U+002D, and U+0060 in code examples?

2012-05-08 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> On the PostScript side, it should be theoretically possible to > use the `GlyphNames2Unicode' dictionary (an undocumented Adobe > Distiller extension) so that PS->PDF software can provide > non-standard mappings. Right now, I haven't found a full > example code for that. An interesting point.

Re: [Groff] Eric Raymond on groff and TeX

2012-05-08 Thread Pierre-Jean
Steve Izma wrote: > I've made a lot of notes about this, and I promise that soon I > will try to document this and other issues that make XML to groff > processing tricky. Most of us would like to read this, it's a very intersting issue about troff. Please, inform the list when you've got a draf