Re: [Groff] Installing Russian Type-1 Fonts

2011-08-20 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Well, \N'...' is kind of a glyph-only object, but by its very >> definition you can't hyphenate it. > > What about a \[u0430] coming from a UTF-8 file processed by preconv? > What corresponding input character does it have provided no > character translations were used? There are two possible

Re: [Groff] Installing Russian Type-1 Fonts

2011-08-20 Thread Anton Shepelev
Werner LEMBERG: > This is not possible. How shall come a glyph-only > object into existence? I don't count ligatures > and similar things here since they also need input > characters to exist. > [...] > Well, \N'...' is kind of a glyph-only object, but > by its very definition you can't hyph

Re: [Groff] Installing Russian Type-1 Fonts

2011-08-20 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> OK, but the reference to the input character is allowed to be >> 'null', then? > > This is not possible. How shall come a glyph-only object into > existence? I don't count ligatures and similar things here since > they also need input characters to exist. Well, \N'...' is kind of a glyph-onl

Re: [Groff] Installing Russian Type-1 Fonts

2011-08-20 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Now that I have acquired more understanding, I don't have problems > reading the manual. But I had had a hard time before! The standard documentation problem of developer vs. user... >> Actually, it's the same object, containing a ref- erence to both >> the input character and the corre- spon

Re: [Groff] Installing Russian Type-1 Fonts

2011-08-20 Thread Anton Shepelev
Werner LEMBERG: > Yes, this is a mess, introduced long before I was > involved in groff. However, this affects the ter- > minology but not the documentation itself. AFAIK, > I've fixed all places in the doc files to make a > clear distinction between input characters and > output glyphs.

Re: [Groff] Installing Russian Type-1 Fonts

2011-08-20 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> However, please avoid the term 'AGL compatible'. We are not >> talking about glyphs but about characters! > > Maybe this confusion is not only my fault also the manual's: > > The distinction between input, characters, and output, glyphs, > is not clearly separated in the terminology of

Re: [Groff] Installing Russian Type-1 Fonts

2011-08-20 Thread Anton Shepelev
Thank you for the kind and patient explanation, Werner. > However, please avoid the term 'AGL compatible'. > We are not talking about glyphs but about charac- > ters! Maybe this confusion is not only my fault also the manual's: The distinction between input, characters, and o