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[Groff] unicode support, part 9: concretize the glyph datatype

2006-02-21 Thread Bruno Haible
Now the abstract glyph datatype appears sufficiently future-proof that I think it can be made concrete again. It contains just a 'glyphinfo *' pointer, so let's use this pointer instead everywhere. The 'glyph' class therefore disappears. After doing this, I rename 'glyphinfo' to 'glyph'. 2006-02

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[Groff] Re: unicode support, many parts - what for?

2006-02-21 Thread Bruno Haible
Michail Vidiassov wrote: > may you, please, explain to mere mortals what user-visible changes > arise (are likely to arise) from this swarm of patches? The expected user-visible change over time is improved Unicode support. So far, before today's patches, there were no user-visible changes, as I'v

[Groff] unicode support, many parts - what for?

2006-02-21 Thread Michail Vidiassov
Dear Werner and Bruno, On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Before freezing the glyph API, let me add more naming fixes and comments. Bruno, all your patches are now in the CVS, thanks! Werner may you, please, explain to mere mortals what user-visible changes arise (are likely to ar

[Groff] unicode support, part 11: \[sqrt] vs \(sr

2006-02-21 Thread Bruno Haible
Does anyone see a difference between \[sqrt] and \(sr ? Most devices treat them the same. groff_char.man has this: (N/A) \[sr]radical u221A square root + (N/A) \[sqrt] radical u221A *** I propose to treat them the same everywhere. 200

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[Groff] groff wiki

2006-02-21 Thread Heinz-Jürgen Oertel
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Re: [Groff] UTF8 support

2006-02-21 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> are there any plans for making groff UTF8 safe? What exactly do you mean with `safe'? groff can already emit UTF8. The CVS contains a preprocessor which converts all input encodings to something groff understands (including UTF8). Werner __

[Groff] unicode support, part 12: \(la, \(ra

2006-02-21 Thread Bruno Haible
Since the question about \[la] and \[ra] will certainly be asked again, I propose to add a comment about it. (Only in glyphuni.cpp, since there doesn't appear to be a way to add a comment to devhtml/R.proto.) diff -r -c3 groff-20060217.orig/src/libs/libgroff/glyphuni.cpp groff-20060217/src/libs/l

[Groff] Possible zsh contention in pdfroff (Re: [autoconf] ensure a VPATH build)

2006-02-21 Thread Keith MARSHALL
I'm copying this to groff@gnu.org, which I think is a more appropriate forum for continuation of this discussion. Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > Some zsh versions have NULLCMD set to `cat' by default, so the > command [`>> $REFFILE'] will be equivalent to > >cat >> $REFFILE > > and thus will read fr

[Groff] unicode support, part 10: \[shc]

2006-02-21 Thread Bruno Haible
Werner Lember wrote: > Under normal circumstances, `shc' is never a glyph in groff. From the > NEWS file: > > Using the latin-1 input character 0xAD (soft hyphen) for the `shc' > request was a bad idea. Instead, it is now translated to `\%', and > the default hyphenation character is again

[Groff] unicode support - where to compose?

2006-02-21 Thread Bruno Haible
Hi, When an input file contains the character , preconv transforms it to \[u1EBF], and troff transforms it to a single glyph u0065_0302_0301. Fine. But when an input file contains the characters , preconv transforms it to x\[u0302]\[u0301], and troff produces three distinct glyphs x, u0302, u0301

[Groff] unicode support, part 14: unicode fonts

2006-02-21 Thread Bruno Haible
Here comes the patch that makes it possible to process manual pages with Unicode characters without declaring them first in advance. With this patch, an average Japanese manual page can be processed, but shows the following problems: 1) Although the man page starts with '\" t -*- coding: utf-8 -

[Groff] unicode support, part 13: \-

2006-02-21 Thread Bruno Haible
Werner Lemberg wrote: > > - devhtml maps "hy" and "-" to U+002D. > > devutf8 and glyphuni.cpp map "hy" and "-" to U+2010. > > > > - devhtml and devutf8 map "\-" to U+2212. > > glyphuni.cpp doesn't. > > `U+2010' is the right one but problematic since many editors are not > capable to search fo

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Re: [Groff] man.conf

2006-02-21 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> man.conf from man-1.5p has the following lines: > > # For use with utf-8, NROFF should be "nroff -mandoc" without -T > # option. (Maybe - but today I need -Tlatin1 to prevent double > # conversion to utf8.) No idea why they don't use -Tutf8, especially on a TTY. Werner

Re: [Groff] Re: begin page blues

2006-02-21 Thread Miklos Somogyi
On 21/02/2006, at 7:42 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: This should be rather straightforward to implement (and IMHO it's always a good idea to have both escapes and requests for the same thing). Can you suggest request names for those two escapes? [...] E.g. a version that uses save/restore rathe

Re: [Groff] Re: begin page blues

2006-02-21 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Well, at least I've tried :-) I only have one philosophical > question-mark. When I was a youngster (yes!), device independence > and pre- and post-processors were good ideas and necessary. I > wonder whether it still is the case. For me: definitely yes. > We, who got used to them, are comfort

Fwd: [Groff] Re: groff + mp

2006-02-21 Thread Pedro A. López-Valencia
On 2/21/06, Michail Vidiassov wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > >> Michail Vidiassov wrote: > >> BTW. I think the latter support was broken netertheless. Can you > >> check?) > > > > I can't. I don't have an old troff running. > > What is the real state of the troff land?

[Groff] Re: groff + mp

2006-02-21 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > What do you want the MetaPost people do? > > Among other things, I want them to change documentation, reflecting > the fact that groff is the version of troff in use. I'm sure that patches are highly welcome :-) > If you take a look at (tex)info docs for metapost, you will see > references to

Re: [Groff] Re: begin page blues

2006-02-21 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > This should be rather straightforward to implement (and IMHO it's > > always a good idea to have both escapes and requests for the same > > thing). Can you suggest request names for those two escapes? > > [...] > > E.g. a version that uses save/restore rather than just > pushing/popping a dic

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Re: [Groff] Re: begin page blues

2006-02-21 Thread Miklos Somogyi
On 20/02/2006, at 7:14 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Currently I hide the \Y in a macro, followed by .sp -1 and use the macro instead of \Y in the main text. It's not a tragedy, just finding a hiding place for every PS insert, if indeed this is the only to do it, is quite a bit of inconvenience

[Groff] man.conf

2006-02-21 Thread Michail Vidiassov
Dear All, man.conf from man-1.5p has the following lines: # For use with utf-8, NROFF should be "nroff -mandoc" without -T option. # (Maybe - but today I need -Tlatin1 to prevent double conversion to utf8.) configure has # -Tlatin1 is bad when utf8 is used, but needed for groff, not for nroff

[Groff] UTF8 support

2006-02-21 Thread leslie . polzer
Hi, are there any plans for making groff UTF8 safe? Leslie pgpmyBTHES6TU.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Groff mailing list Groff@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/groff

[Groff] Re: groff + mp

2006-02-21 Thread Michail Vidiassov
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Werner LEMBERG wrote: I want us to try to push groff support into the next metapost version. What do you want the MetaPost people do? Among other things, I want them to change documentation, reflecting the fact that groff is the version of troff in use. If you take a lo