Open communication and Slack

2018-08-16 Thread Dão Gottwald via governance
The use of Slack at Mozilla has bothered me for a while. So far I managed to pretty much ignore Slack. I feel left out sometimes but it hasn't been a big deal, as far as I can tell. (Of course, since I don't have an account, I don't know how much exactly I've been missing.) Now this issue came up

Re: Open communication and Slack

2018-08-16 Thread Benjamin Kerensa via governance
It’s definitely a problematic situation and I think it demonstrates how Mozilla is drifting more and more from its manifesto and values towards a more corporate and closed community. Mozilla embraces more closed practices today than it did just a few years ago. And it’s surely not benefitting t

Re: Open communication and Slack

2018-08-16 Thread Andrew Halberstadt via governance
Thank you for bringing this up Dão, this is something that has been bothering me for a long time as well. It used to be the case that supporting our community of volunteers was somewhere at the fore of Mozilla's priorities (we used to say "our community is our biggest strength"). It's become clear

Re: Open communication and Slack

2018-08-16 Thread Eric Shepherd (Sheppy) via governance
On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:38 AM Dão Gottwald via governance < governance@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > AFAIK Slack is only available to Mozilla staff and volunteers who've signed > our NDA. It's my understanding that communication at Mozilla should be open > by default, and the rest is sufficiently

Re: Open communication and Slack

2018-08-16 Thread Sean Stangl via governance
It's worth noting that there are reasonable open, company-backed alternatives to Slack. For example, https://zulipchat.com/ presents a Slack-like interface. It's Apache2 licensed, allows for self-hosting, is backed by a company, has web/desktop/android/iOS apps, and has the same service agreements

Re: Open communication and Slack

2018-08-16 Thread Peter Saint-Andre via governance
On 8/16/18 3:52 AM, Dão Gottwald via governance wrote: > The use of Slack at Mozilla has bothered me for a while. So far I managed > to pretty much ignore Slack. I feel left out sometimes but it hasn't been a > big deal, as far as I can tell. (Of course, since I don't have an account, > I don't kno