Thunderbird, the future, mozilla-central and comm-central

2015-11-30 Thread Mitchell Baker
This is a long-ish message. It covers general topics about Thunderbird and the future, and also the topics of the Foundation involvement (point 9) and the question of merging repositories (point 11). Naturally, I believe it’s worth the time to read through the end. 1. Firefox and Thunderbird

Re: Thunderbird, the future, mozilla-central and comm-central

2015-11-30 Thread Mark Surman
Hi all As a follow on to Mitchell’s post, I want to outline more specifically how the Foundation got involved and the ways in which I believe the Foundation can assist in this situation. Mitchell and I have had a number of discussions regarding Thunderbird. The Thunderbird Council has also

Re: Thunderbird, the future, mozilla-central and comm-central

2015-11-30 Thread Robert Accettura
It's not immediately clear (and maybe that's because it's truly undecided), but is this an effort to separate Thunderbird from Mozilla entirely (perhaps live on under Apache, someone else, or stand alone)? Or would it be an independent project under the Mozilla Foundation, but no infrastructure/tec

Re: Thunderbird, the future, mozilla-central and comm-central

2015-11-30 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
I think this is rather disappointing and wish Mozilla would continue to support Thunderbird as a Mozilla community-driven project. Thunderbird has continued to grow[1] despite Mozilla removing paid staff from its development and eliminating resources it had. (Actually has more users than Firefox OS

Re: Thunderbird, the future, mozilla-central and comm-central

2015-11-30 Thread Mitchell Baker
Hi Robert Truly undecided.  Obviously there's both "mozilla-ness" and history with the Mozilla Foundation.  And there are some drawback about being part of something with the impact goals that we have.   It's possible that being associated with an organizat

Re: Thunderbird, the future, mozilla-central and comm-central

2015-11-30 Thread Mitchell Baker
Hi Benjamin And yes, we want to see a good setting.  Both Mark and i are among the dedicated Thunderbird user group, and I use Thunderbird to organize vast parts of my life.   When I say that Thunderbird and Firefox must disentangle, it's not because I don'