Re: Planet refresh and proposed policy changes.

2014-12-15 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Robert Accettura wrote: > > > > > > On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:58 PM, Benjamin Kerensa > wrote: > > How will you decide which feeds are dead? Are we talking dead as in the > RSS > > feed errors or dead as in no recent content (inactive blog?) > > There are quite a few

Re: Support to Brendan Eich

2014-12-15 Thread Mithu Khan
On Monday, May 5, 2014 8:57:04 AM UTC-7, John Karahalis wrote: > Hi Maciej, > > Thank you for sharing your concern. I understand how you feel, and hope to > address some of your points. > > First, please be aware that Brendan chose to step down. To force him to stay > against his will would b

Re: Planet refresh and proposed policy changes.

2014-12-15 Thread Axel Hecht
On 12/15/14 9:22 AM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Robert Accettura wrote: On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:58 PM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: How will you decide which feeds are dead? Are we talking dead as in the RSS feed errors or dead as in no recent content (inactive

Re: Planet refresh and proposed policy changes.

2014-12-15 Thread Axel Hecht
Old guard on guard. Let's keep old practice apart from old intentions. Practice back then was to blog at all, and to have that on planet. There wasn't much intention behind that, at least not from my side, both as a consumer and a producer. Getting to know people to some extent was fall out,

Re: Planet refresh and proposed policy changes.

2014-12-15 Thread Axel Hecht
On 12/13/14 11:07 PM, Larissa Shapiro wrote: I do wonder if Planet could have tags beyond "mozilla" eventually, for topic related streams? I know I struggle to keep up. I think that "keeping up" should be a non-goal of planet. That can only limit what the mozilla project can do, and that'd be

Re: @mozilla.org email addresses for Mozilla Reps

2014-12-15 Thread Gervase Markham
On 10/12/14 22:19, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: > It is a shame there is not despite how much support for such was shown in > the last round of discussions. It seems like we just got into bikeshedding > over the topic. I really don't think that issues about who should get one, what the criteria should

Re: Firefox built-in censorship?

2014-12-15 Thread Gervase Markham
On 11/12/14 13:58, Kate Black wrote: > "Microsoft, Google and Mozilla were "working together to look at" having > "built-in restrictions to block access" to child abuse material - Mr > Cameron said this would be a "game changer"" > http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-30426164 I have been unable to find out

Re: Planet refresh and proposed policy changes.

2014-12-15 Thread Gervase Markham
Hi Mike, On 12/12/14 16:48, Mike Hoye wrote: > As part of a Planet refresh [1] planned for the new year and aiming for > end-Q2, the Planet peers are going to be revising the somewhat-sparse > Planet documentation and policies [2]. A visual redesign is a fine thing, although those who consume via

Re: Planet refresh and proposed policy changes.

2014-12-15 Thread Mike Hoye
On 2014-12-15 9:35 AM, Gervase Markham wrote: Hi Mike, Hi, Gerv! I've trimmed some of your text below for brevity's sake but I think I've spoken to your core arguments. On 12/12/14 16:48, Mike Hoye wrote: As part of a Planet refresh [1] planned for the new year and aiming for end-Q2, the Pla

Re: Firefox built-in censorship?

2014-12-15 Thread Leo McArdle
If that *is* what Cameron is referring to, it illustrates my point perfectly of the Government continually conflating two completely different things. Unless, of course, we've gone full doublespeak, and 'child abuse material' now means material which parents feel their might child find disturbing.

Re: Planet refresh and proposed policy changes.

2014-12-15 Thread Leo McArdle
On 15/12/14 13:24, Axel Hecht wrote: > On 12/13/14 11:07 PM, Larissa Shapiro wrote: >> I do wonder if Planet could have tags beyond "mozilla" eventually, for >> topic related streams? I know I struggle to keep up. > I think that "keeping up" should be a non-goal of planet. I think Larissa's point

Re: Planet refresh and proposed policy changes.

2014-12-15 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Dec 15, 2014 10:14 AM, "Leo McArdle" wrote: > > On 15/12/14 13:24, Axel Hecht wrote: > > On 12/13/14 11:07 PM, Larissa Shapiro wrote: > >> I do wonder if Planet could have tags beyond "mozilla" eventually, for > >> topic related streams? I know I struggle to keep up. > > I think that "keeping u

Re: Planet refresh and proposed policy changes.

2014-12-15 Thread Nikos Roussos
On 12/15/2014 08:21 PM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: > On Dec 15, 2014 10:14 AM, "Leo McArdle" wrote: >> >> On 15/12/14 13:24, Axel Hecht wrote: >>> On 12/13/14 11:07 PM, Larissa Shapiro wrote: I do wonder if Planet could have tags beyond "mozilla" eventually, for topic related streams? I kno

Re: Planet refresh and proposed policy changes.

2014-12-15 Thread Nikos Roussos
On 12/15/2014 04:58 AM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: >> To that end, we are going to propose that Planet have a participation >> policy including words to the effect that "in discussing contentious or >> personal topics outside of Mozilla's mission, please consider invitations >> to conversation welcome

Re: Planet refresh and proposed policy changes.

2014-12-15 Thread Mike Connor
Hi all, After a bit of an IRC sidebar with mhoye, I wanted to reframe this conversation to a concise wording that (I think) reflects the core intent of the Planet peers: === We're planning to move to an explicit tag model, where we will publish only posts that are explicitly tagged as

Re: Planet refresh and proposed policy changes.

2014-12-15 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Nikos Roussos wrote: > > On 12/15/2014 04:58 AM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: > >> To that end, we are going to propose that Planet have a participation > >> policy including words to the effect that "in discussing contentious or > >> personal topics outside of Mozilla

Re: Planet refresh and proposed policy changes.

2014-12-15 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Mike Connor wrote: > Hi all, > > After a bit of an IRC sidebar with mhoye, I wanted to reframe this > conversation to a concise wording that (I think) reflects the core intent > of the Planet peers: > > === > > We're planning to move to an explicit tag mo

Re: Planet refresh and proposed policy changes.

2014-12-15 Thread Mike Connor
> On Dec 15, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Mike Connor > wrote: > Hi all, > > After a bit of an IRC sidebar with mhoye, I wanted to reframe this > conversation to a concise wording that (I think) reflects the core i

Re: Planet refresh and proposed policy changes.

2014-12-15 Thread Gervase Markham
On 15/12/14 18:59, Mike Connor wrote: > We're planning to move to an explicit tag model, where we will > publish only posts that are explicitly tagged as Mozilla. This is > not intended to exclude off-topic content, but to encourage a degree > of intentionality around the content individuals choos

Re: Planet refresh and proposed policy changes.

2014-12-15 Thread Robert Accettura
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mike Connor wrote: > > > > On Dec 15, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Benjamin Kerensa > wrote: > > > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Mike Connor > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > After a bit of an IRC sidebar with mhoye, I wanted to reframe this > c

Re: Planet refresh and proposed policy changes.

2014-12-15 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Gervase Markham wrote: > On 15/12/14 18:59, Mike Connor wrote: > > We're planning to move to an explicit tag model, where we will > > publish only posts that are explicitly tagged as Mozilla. This is > > not intended to exclude off-topic content, but to encourag

Re: Planet refresh and proposed policy changes.

2014-12-15 Thread Mike Connor
> On Dec 15, 2014, at 2:09 PM, Gervase Markham wrote: > > On 15/12/14 18:59, Mike Connor wrote: >> We're planning to move to an explicit tag model, where we will >> publish only posts that are explicitly tagged as Mozilla. This is >> not intended to exclude off-topic content, but to encourage a

Re: Firefox built-in censorship?

2014-12-15 Thread Gian-Carlo Pascutto
On 12-12-14 13:28, Kartikaya Gupta wrote: > On 11/12/2014, 17:43, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> Rather than guessing what mozilla may or may not do based on the >> comments of someone that is not part of the mozilla community, it'd be >> better to try to get some facts. > > It seems to me that's what th

Privacy Notice for Firefox Hello

2014-12-15 Thread udevi
Hi, The Privacy Notice for our new product Firefox Hello can be viewed here: https://github.com/mozilla/legal-docs/blob/master/WebRTC_PrivacyNotice/en-US.md This reflects the data that is received and handled by Mozilla for Firefox 35, which will officially launch in January. I've been workin

Re: Planet refresh and proposed policy changes.

2014-12-15 Thread Axel Hecht
On 12/15/14 8:02 PM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Nikos Roussos wrote: On 12/15/2014 04:58 AM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: To that end, we are going to propose that Planet have a participation policy including words to the effect that "in discussing contentious or per

Re: Planet refresh and proposed policy changes.

2014-12-15 Thread Justin Dolske
On 12/15/14 11:08 AM, Mike Connor wrote: Yeah, fair, software varies in how it does categorization. The core intent is a shift from "publish automatically" to "publish intentionally” on the part of authors. How we achieve that is a technical implementation detail. It's a fine idea, although

Re: Privacy Notice for Firefox Hello

2014-12-15 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
It might be nice to have a section on PII and explicitly explain what if any information that could identify a user Mozilla stores and for how long. I think if we do not keep any PII its good to explicitly say so to alleviate concerns. I already see discussions of people planning to host private l

Re: Privacy Notice for Firefox Hello

2014-12-15 Thread Lisa Brewster
"When you make calls, some information is sent to Mozilla in order to connect the call." It's not clear to me what exactly "some information" refers to, I think because the bullet points that follow start with information that MIGHT be sent (Firefox Accounts), then information that is NOT sent (co

Re: Planet refresh and proposed policy changes.

2014-12-15 Thread Mike Connor
It's a fair point. It's not a massive departure as much as it's a reinforcement of expectations: Be intentional. Choose what to push into a Mozilla space. Be excellent to each other. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Justin Dolske wrote: > > On 12/15/14 11:08 AM, Mike Connor wrote: > > Yeah, fai

Re: Privacy Notice for Firefox Hello

2014-12-15 Thread udevi
Thanks Lisa and Benjamin, I'll use this to make clarifications. Hopefully it will be clearer! ___ governance mailing list governance@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance