Re: New Golf

2007-02-13 Thread Yanick Champoux
On Sunday 11 February 2007 14:17, Andrew Savige wrote: > `/anick wrote: > > Ooooh... A Roman-to-decimal rehash of the Fonality tournament. > > Aah.. Emm... Do you mind if we pursue this conversation later on? > > I suddenly remember I have things to do... > > Thanks `/ for bringing that to my atten

Re: New Golf

2007-02-11 Thread Andrew Savige
`/anick wrote: > Ooooh... A Roman-to-decimal rehash of the Fonality tournament. > Aah.. Emm... Do you mind if we pursue this conversation later on? > I suddenly remember I have things to do... Thanks `/ for bringing that to my attention. I need another golf game like a hole in the head. ;-) As you

Re: New Golf

2007-02-04 Thread Yanick Champoux
On Saturday 03 February 2007 21:22, Andrew Savige wrote: > --- ô Great Ton wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > > > "Robin Houston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On the subject of new golf, I wonder if you golfers all know about > >> http://codegolf.com? > >> > >> The rules are no

Re: New Golf

2007-02-03 Thread Andrew Savige
--- ô Great Ton wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Robin Houston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On the subject of new golf, I wonder if you golfers all know about >> http://codegolf.com? >> >> The rules are not quite the same as traditional Perl golf: the most >> important differen

Re: New Golf

2007-01-17 Thread Ton Hospel
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Daniel Cutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was just wondering, reading all your talk about your solutions to the > fonality golf, I would assume that everyone converted in arabic, > calculated and then converted back to roman. When I first had a look at >

Re: New Golf

2007-01-17 Thread Andrew Savige
--- Jasper wrote: > p.s. > for($f=12;$f-->0;){ > surely > for($f=12;--$f;){ > ? p.p.s. Mr Magoo. I think you meant for($f=12;$f--;) For cheap thrills, I fixed a few more Magoos, whittling dcutter's 247 to 237: #!perl -aln @a=(IV,IX,XL,XC,CD,CM,M,D,C,L,X,V);@b=(I,VI,X,LX,C,DC,DD,CC,LL,XX,VV,II);s

Re: New Golf

2007-01-17 Thread Jasper
On 1/17/07, Daniel Cutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was just wondering, reading all your talk about your solutions to the fonality golf, I would assume that everyone converted in arabic, calculated and then converted back to roman. When I first had a look at the problem I thought that that wou

Re: New Golf

2007-01-17 Thread Daniel Cutter
I was just wondering, reading all your talk about your solutions to the fonality golf, I would assume that everyone converted in arabic, calculated and then converted back to roman. When I first had a look at the problem I thought that that would be the obvious way to do it. At the time I thoug

Re: New Golf

2007-01-16 Thread Andy_Bach
> My first thought was HART: Hospelian Arabic to Roman Transform. >Remembering this old "ton is an alien" thread, I now propose "Earthman": Eye-popping Alien Roman Ton Hospelian Magical Algorithm for Numerals > If you can think of a better name, please let us know. :-) I don't know of any val

Re: New Golf

2007-01-15 Thread Yanick Champoux
On Sunday 14 January 2007 11:31, Ton Hospel wrote: > > Super trivial Magoo on yanicks solution, good for one T-shirt: > > > > =~/$&/ can be written as =~$& > > Less Magoo: > > #!perl -lp040 > $s=/m/ > if/u/;($y=I1V5X10L50C100D500M1000IV4IX9XL40XC90CD400CM900)=~chop,$t+=$s^"$; >">($;=$')?-$;:$;while

Re: New Golf

2007-01-14 Thread Ton Hospel
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ton Hospel) writes: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Andrew Savige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Can anyone else see anything Mr Magoo-like in m.wrenn's or >> `/anick's solutions? Just to rub it in, you see. :-) >> > Super trivial

Re: New Golf

2007-01-14 Thread Ton Hospel
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andrew Savige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Can anyone else see anything Mr Magoo-like in m.wrenn's or > `/anick's solutions? Just to rub it in, you see. :-) > Super trivial Magoo on yanicks solution, good for one T-shirt: =~/$&/ can be written as =~$&

Re: New Golf

2007-01-14 Thread Yanick Champoux
On Saturday 13 January 2007 21:20, Andrew Savige wrote: > Can anyone else see anything Mr Magoo-like in m.wrenn's or > `/anick's solutions? Just to rub it in, you see. :-) You, my friend, are a very evil, very cruel man. > I had toyed with Util's approach during > the game, but kept flog

Re: New Golf

2007-01-14 Thread Ton Hospel
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ton Hospel) writes: > #!perl -pl > @[EMAIL PROTECTED] > s!.!y$IVCXL91-I0$XLMCDXVIII$dfor$X[$_].=4x$&%1859^7!eg,!y/m/-/..3999;s/\w+/+$Y{$&}/g;$_=$X[eval] > > (114.54) Exactly the same thing, but taking a bit more care with the tie breaker

Re: New Golf

2007-01-14 Thread Ton Hospel
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ton Hospel) writes: > The most obvious target is to get rid of the 0: > #!perl -pl > s!.!y$IVCXL91-I0$XLMCDXVIII$dfor$X[$_].=4x$&%1859^7!egfor!y/m/-/..3999;@[EMAIL > PROTECTED]@X;s/\w+/+$Y{$&}/g;$_=$X[eval] > > (115.54) Also use map to ge

Re: New Golf

2007-01-14 Thread Ton Hospel
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andrew Savige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > --- Michael Wrenn wrote: >> ... An extremely obvious 2 stroker ... > > I've cast my eye over your and `/anick's solutions looking for > any more "obvious 2 strokers". Alas, I couldn't find one in > `/anick's master

Re: New Golf

2007-01-14 Thread Andrew Savige
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Stephen Turner wrote: > On Thu, 2 May 2002, Ton Hospel wrote: >> >> Jerome Quelin writes: >>> >>> I begin to think that Ton is an alien. This makes me wonder: has anyone >>> seen Ton in real life? ;) >>> >> I have. > > That's just what an alien _would_ say. > > -- > Stephen Turn

Re: New Golf

2007-01-13 Thread Andrew Savige
--- Michael Wrenn wrote: > ... An extremely obvious 2 stroker ... I've cast my eye over your and `/anick's solutions looking for any more "obvious 2 strokers". Alas, I couldn't find one in `/anick's masterwork, but I did find another Mr Magoo-esque 2 stroker in your 169.51, namely changing: qw(

Re: New Golf

2007-01-12 Thread Andrew Savige
--- Ton Hospel wrote: > I think you should also explain how constructing the table > backwards (from 3999 to 1) allows you to put the $$$_=$_ > *inside* the s///eg, since that way the wrong entries for > the partial roman strings during buildup get fixed later on. > And maybe also why the range can

Re: New Golf

2007-01-12 Thread Ton Hospel
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andrew Savige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Please let me know if you see something in the report that > makes you pull a face. > I think you should also explain how constructing the table backwards (from 3999 to 1) allows you to put the $$$_=$_ *inside* the

Re: New Golf

2007-01-11 Thread Andrew Savige
I've done a post mortem report on the Fonality tournament at: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=594299 Unfortunately, I had to remove the lovely little orange picture of (-ugene because I seem to have hit the size limit of a Perl Monks meditation. :-( The little pink picture of `/anick remains,

Re: New Golf

2007-01-07 Thread Ton Hospel
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andrew Savige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You might call this "golfing the post mortem" ... speaking of which, > I bet Ton is still searching for that elusive 98. :-) > Nah, I'm not. I'm reasonably confident that the magic formula is optimal for a one shot

Re: New Golf

2007-01-07 Thread Ton Hospel
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Robin Houston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On the subject of new golf, I wonder if you golfers all know about > http://codegolf.com? > > The rules are not quite the same as traditional Perl golf: the most > important difference is that the whole of the s

Re: New Golf

2007-01-05 Thread Andrew Savige
--- /-\ndrew Savige wrote: > It seems to me that some of the solutions are not quite correct, failing the > test case: > > MD plus I > > which should produce the answer MDI. > > Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that the shortest solutions > of szery, Sec and Jasper all fail this tes

Re: New Golf

2007-01-04 Thread Andrew Savige
--- Stefan `Sec` Zehl (principal taunter of `/anick) wrote: > Ok, count me as > > romancalc.pl: 120.51 strokes (ok), md5=82eb4544217b1d7054bb90e9c75e3d27 Woohoo! Just two more diabolical test cases and I'll have caught the elusive Sec. ;-) You might call this "golfing the post mortem" ... speak

Re: New Golf

2007-01-04 Thread Stefan `Sec` Zehl
Oh, On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 10:44 +1100, Andrew Savige wrote: > It seems to me that some of the solutions are not quite correct, failing the > test case: > > MD plus I Well. Thats definitely bad. I gather that is what I get for taking other peoples ideas from the web :-) Ok, count me as roma

Re: New Golf

2007-01-04 Thread Jasper
On 1/4/07, Andrew Savige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It seems to me that some of the solutions are not quite correct, failing the test case: MD plus I which should produce the answer MDI. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that the shortest solutions of szery, Sec and Jasper all fail

Re: New Golf

2007-01-04 Thread Andrew Savige
It seems to me that some of the solutions are not quite correct, failing the test case: MD plus I which should produce the answer MDI. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that the shortest solutions of szery, Sec and Jasper all fail this test case. Falling back one stroke from 4e3 to

Re: New Golf

2007-01-04 Thread Robin Houston
On the subject of new golf, I wonder if you golfers all know about http://codegolf.com? The rules are not quite the same as traditional Perl golf: the most important difference is that the whole of the shebang line counts towards the size, which effectively penalises the use of switches by seven s

Re: New Golf

2007-01-03 Thread Yanick Champoux
On Tuesday 02 January 2007 22:32, Michael Wrenn wrote: > Yanick Champoux wrote: > > Stefan `Sec` Zehl said: > >> No. Look at \'anick for example (poor \'anick :) > > May I be the first to second that! > > poor, poor \'anick! Now, now, now. Isn't there some tacit rule in the gentlemen's cod

Re: New Golf

2007-01-03 Thread Yanick Champoux
On Wednesday 03 January 2007 05:42, Andrew Savige wrote: > Yes, doing battle with `/anick is perhaps the pinnacle of any golfer's > career. Flattering, but I have to disagree. It's akin to say that the most breath-taking act at the circus is the clown intermission. But still, I like to

Re: New Golf

2007-01-03 Thread Andrew Savige
--- Michael Wrenn wrote: > OK! Here's what happened to me ... I went out to get some dinner and > returned to check on my solid 20th Place (securing a prized > Fonality/trixbox T-shirt) ... when what to my wondering eyes should > appear, but \'anick the Canuck who was now TWO STROKES CLEAR! I C

Re: New Golf

2007-01-02 Thread Samy Kamkar
Michael, what an amazing story. I laughed, I cried, I moved you back down to 21. Just kidding! Thank you all for playing! It was an awesome golf! Hope to join in on the next public golf. ps, winners will be contacted shortly (or already have been) to receive their prizes! Michael Wrenn wro

Re: New Golf

2007-01-02 Thread Michael Wrenn
Yanick Champoux wrote: Stefan `Sec` Zehl said: No. Look at \'anick for example (poor \'anick :) May I be the first to second that! poor, poor \'anick! He sets a fine example, doesn't he! Yeah. Whoever wrote that "the one who doesn't learn from history is condemned to repeat i

Re: New Golf

2007-01-02 Thread Philippe Bruhat (BooK)
Le mardi 02 janvier 2007 à 10:13, Jasper écrivait: > Congratulations, Ton. > > As if the outcome was ever in doubt.. :D In the case where one of the players is actually hired by Fonality, I wonder if s/he'll be authorized to write the same kind of code in their production systems as the one they

Re: New Golf

2007-01-02 Thread Yanick Champoux
Stefan `Sec` Zehl said: > > On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 10:13 +, Jasper wrote: >> Now, as an afterthought, am I the only person to have missed the >> perlgolf history book, and the only person who submitted a score that >> didn't have something like : $;.=5x$_*8%29628 > > No. Look at \'anick for ex

Re: New Golf

2007-01-02 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 18 maart 2002 sprak Andrew Savige: > Allocating prize money for each of the 5 Perl Golf tournaments > at $4 million per tournament, according to the formula used by > the US PGA, produces the following tables. That figure turns out to have been a bit optimistic... En op 02 januari 2007 spra

Re: New Golf

2007-01-02 Thread Daniel Tiefnig
Jasper wrote: > Can someone send me a link? Terje's old link has expired, and there > doesn't seem to be an equivalent on his currently > extant-but-hibernating minigolf site. http://terje2.frox25.no-ip.org/~golf-info/Book.html It's linked on http://perlgolf.sourceforge.net/ and google finds it

Re: New Golf

2007-01-02 Thread Jasper
On 1/2/07, Andrew Savige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: effort. Sorry 'bout that, Jasper. It never occurred, not in my wildest dreams that you'd never heard of mtve's big book of golf! Can someone send me a link? Terje's old link has expired, and there doesn't seem to be an equivalent on his curre

Re: New Golf

2007-01-02 Thread Andrew Savige
--- Jasper wrote: > Congratulations, Ton. Yep, I echo Jasper's congratulations Ton. What remains freakish is the speed at which Ton posts a great score. I'd also like to thank Samy. Having refereed similar sized tournaments on my own, I know how exhausting and time consuming it is. Thanks Samy!

Re: New Golf

2007-01-02 Thread Stefan `Sec` Zehl
On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 10:13 +, Jasper wrote: > Now, as an afterthought, am I the only person to have missed the > perlgolf history book, and the only person who submitted a score that > didn't have something like : $;.=5x$_*8%29628 No. Look at \'anick for example (poor \'anick :) I had onc

Re: New Golf

2007-01-02 Thread Jasper
Congratulations, Ton. As if the outcome was ever in doubt.. :D Now, as an afterthought, am I the only person to have missed the perlgolf history book, and the only person who submitted a score that didn't have something like : $;.=5x$_*8%29628 :) I had a good time doing it, though. Thanks, Sam

Re: New golf

2002-10-15 Thread Terje Kristensen
ds Terje K - Original Message - From: Michael W Thelen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 09:31:56 -0600 To: Terje Kristensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: New golf "Add 11" > * Terje Kristensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-10-14 13:33]: > > A n

Re: New golf "Add 11"

2002-10-15 Thread Michael W Thelen
* Terje Kristensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-10-14 13:33]: > A new minigolf "Add 11" has started today. > url : http://terje.dev.webon.net/golf/?10 How is the tiebreaker calculated? -- Mike -- Michael W. Thelen eval unpack u,'M*"1C/22\A+48O82UZ+SME=F%L*"1C+B(G='. '2HGM+"