I agree with Peter's sentiment here.
On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 3:36:38 PM UTC+2, peterGo wrote:
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> Recently, a political message with a fundraising link appeared as a banner
> atop golang.org websites: https://golang.org/, https://pkg.go.dev/.
>
> content/static: add Black Lives Matter banner
I share link to golang.org all the time and I'd be willing to serve as a
testcase for this. Feel free to report my alleged crimes to the police.
Claiming that simply sharing a link to the Go page is "advocating for a
foreign political cause" is clearly a bad-faith argument, so if you live in
the ki
Except now sharing links to golang.org, or showing those web pages at
events, could be argued as advocating for a foreign political cause. And
that's illegal in much of the world. Per google, google operates in 219
countries. This could force community members to argue in any of at least
219 leg
As evidence for not needing the next layer of abstraction, I offer Django
class-based-views. The go approach is much more understandable and easier
to follow.
On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 4:11:59 PM UTC-4, Asim Aslam wrote:
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> Might not be the right place for this discussion but also useful t
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 8:12 AM andrey mirtchovski
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a non-profit I'd like to support. Who do I ask to put a banner
> on golang.org for me?
>
> (reductio ad absurdum)
>
This sounds like a great idea to me. It would probably need to be a
non-profit that furthers the Go langu
I noticed a kind of circularity in the arguments around this issue. The simple
"inline the if block" issue was created and rejected earlier:
https://github.com/golang/go/issues/27135 -- in part because the central issue
of error handling logic was supposed to be resolved by some other upcoming
I am very very old, and very old school, so I always start with UMLs and
ERDs and design my apps long before I do any coding. These flowcharts are
visual representations that are concise and easy to understand and they are
saved as XML which can be parsed by a Go program controlled by +generate
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 01:22 robert engels wrote:
> All I pointed out was that someone objecting to this may not be doing
> based on political party affiliations.
>
No, what you said is, that objecting to the banner may not be *political*.
You didn't mention parties and neither did I. And I stand
Let's please all remember to be respectful and charitable in this
discussion, per the gopher values in the code of conduct. Let's not let
this go off the rails. Thanks.
Ian
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I never said once that what the Go team was wrong, or not within their rights -
all I ever called for was transparency so people can educated decisions on the
subject. After more research into EJI I even stated I was wrong about possible
political affiliations in this case.
Maybe you were read
In the context of a sufficiently large collection of people all actions
are political to some degree, *including inaction and non-comment*.
Where the boundary is for the degree on what constitutes a political
action and what doesn't varies between people.
On Sun, 2020-06-14 at 16:44 -0400, Eric S.
You could start here. If the Go team is comfortable putting a banner in its
support on the page, they might do so.
(You are using "reductio ad absurdum" wrong).
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 12:12 AM andrey mirtchovski
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a non-profit I'd like to support. Who do I ask to put a ban
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 12:08 AM Robert Engels
wrote:
> Equating not supporting this and supporting marginalized groups is not
> correct. You can support marginalized groups all day and disagree on how
> best to do so. It doesn’t have to be political at all.
>
No, it is *inherently* political to
Hi,
I have a non-profit I'd like to support. Who do I ask to put a banner
on golang.org for me?
(reductio ad absurdum)
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 4:08 PM Robert Engels wrote:
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> Equating not supporting this and supporting marginalized groups is not
> correct. You can support marginalized groups
Equating not supporting this and supporting marginalized groups is not correct.
You can support marginalized groups all day and disagree on how best to do so.
It doesn’t have to be political at all.
> On Jun 14, 2020, at 4:43 PM, 'Axel Wagner' via golang-nuts
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> the Go
Hi,
the Go Team and the Go Project are composed of people and expressing an
opinion - *especially* a political one - is well within their right (If I
was a conservative American I would wax poetically about the first
amendment here).
Let's not pretend this is about politics or not. This is about *
What makes you think this is somehow politics and not simply supporting
an important not-for-profit at a time when it's particularly relevant
and important to do so? I don't see anything political about the topic
unless you count that some of the solutions are political (but this one,
donating to a
I, for one, applaud the posting of the banner.
Solidarity!
On Sunday, 14 June 2020 14:36:38 UTC+1, peterGo wrote:
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> Recently, a political message with a fundraising link appeared as a banner
> atop golang.org websites: https://golang.org/, https://pkg.go.dev/.
>
> content/static: add Black Liv
Sam Whited :
> This is not a simple political issue, it is a personal human issue. It
> is a social issue. It is a justice issue.
It is the injection of politics into a list where politics does not belong.
Kindly perform your virtue signalling elsewhere.
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Great minds think alike!
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 12:56 PM Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
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> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 8:25 AM Tom Limoncelli wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:34 PM Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:43 AM wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ?? Why not a cleaner synt
https://golang.org/issue/38151 great news !... lets hope something
finally gets resolved
FWIW, I modify my original proposal: replacing #{.. .} with err {...}
On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 12:57:01 PM UTC-4, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
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> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 8:25 AM Tom Limoncelli > wr
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 8:25 AM Tom Limoncelli wrote:
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> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:34 PM Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:43 AM wrote:
> > >
> > > ?? Why not a cleaner syntax e.g. x = some_func () #{ } .. symbol #
> > > arbitrarily chosen
> >
> > Besides what other p
On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 1:09:16 PM UTC-4, Jan Mercl wrote:
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> On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 5:37 PM Jake Montgomery > wrote:
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> > You cant really write a short 'end()' function. You have to write an end
> function for every type of slice. Or use reflection, which would make the
> function s
Amen Tom.. hard to believe that those who determine what Go syntax is, and
is not, have yet to alter this uniquely awkward feature of the Go
language.
On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 11:26:08 AM UTC-4, Tom Limoncelli wrote:
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> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:34 PM Ian Lance Taylor > wrote:
> >
> > O
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 5:25 PM Tom Limoncelli wrote:
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> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:34 PM Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:43 AM wrote:
> > >
> > > ?? Why not a cleaner syntax e.g. x = some_func () #{ } .. symbol #
> > > arbitrarily chosen
> >
> > Besides what other p
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:34 PM Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
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> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:43 AM wrote:
> >
> > ?? Why not a cleaner syntax e.g. x = some_func () #{ } .. symbol #
> > arbitrarily chosen
>
> Besides what other people have said, it may be of interest to glance
> through
> https://git
Thank you for the feedback!
I took Jan Mercl's suggestion and wrote the short function to see if
it is useful. It is based on C Banning's suggested code. I'm going to
start using it on my projects to see if it helps.
The module is called "hind":https://github.com/TomOnTime/hind
hind.S(x) wo
Thanks Sam for the details
Now it makes sense and I can see where it is coming from.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 7:44 PM Sam Whited wrote:
> They are directed to the Equal Justice Initiative which is a non-profit.
> In the united states 501(c)3 not-for-profit organizations are barred
> from certain
Thank you, I had already corrected my statement. Sorry to everyone.
> On Jun 14, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Sam Whited wrote:
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> They are directed to the Equal Justice Initiative which is a non-profit.
> In the united states 501(c)3 not-for-profit organizations are barred
> from certain kinds of politi
They are directed to the Equal Justice Initiative which is a non-profit.
In the united states 501(c)3 not-for-profit organizations are barred
from certain kinds of political speech including endorsing individual
parties or candidates. The banner does not point to any particular
political party.
—S
Major correction, this is not the .org I was thinking of. I have no knowledge
that what I said is the case with the EJI.
> On Jun 14, 2020, at 9:10 AM, Robert Engels wrote:
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> I agree it is an important social issue, but in this particular case I
> believe the funds are directed to specific
I agree it is an important social issue, but in this particular case I believe
the funds are directed to specific political parties so the boundary between
supporting social issues and political contributions is murky. I am not saying
it shouldn’t be done but it should be more transparent.
> O
This is not a simple political issue, it is a personal human issue. It
is a social issue. It is a justice issue. It seems quite obvious to me
that this is different than if they had put a fundraiser for a candidate
for office, for instance, in a banner.
It amazes me how often people come out of th
I second Peter.
This is absolutely unbelievable.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 7:06 PM peterGo wrote:
> Recently, a political message with a fundraising link appeared as a banner
> atop golang.org websites: https://golang.org/, https://pkg.go.dev/.
>
> content/static: add Black Lives Matter banner to
Recently, a political message with a fundraising link appeared as a banner
atop golang.org websites: https://golang.org/, https://pkg.go.dev/.
content/static: add Black Lives Matter banner to top of site
https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/website/+/237589
Black Lives Matter.
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