Re: ideal.dll // fixing thread breaking

2012-06-29 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On 28.06.2012 18:55, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 18:24:32 +0300 Mika Suomalainen > wrote: > > Hello Mika, > >>> Were you able to verify that signature? > Several people use PGP/MIME, all of which verify here, and include > the list

Re: ideal.dll // fixing thread breaking

2012-06-29 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 28.06.2012 21:50, Peter Lebbing wrote: > On 28/06/12 17:24, Mika Suomalainen wrote: >>> Were you able to verify that signature? > I don't believe my Enigmail is willing to check any PGP/MIME > signatures for me... must be something broken with the

Re: ideal.dll // fixing thread breaking

2012-06-29 Thread Mika Suomalainen
On 27.06.2012 18:33, Peter Lebbing wrote: > For future reference, that URL is in the headers of every mail you get from > the > list, btw. -- [Mika Suomalainen](https://mkaysi.github.com/) || NOTICE! I am on mobile broadband with very limited time, so I cannot read emails very much. The best t

Re: ideal.dll // fixing thread breaking

2012-06-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:31:09 +0300 Mika Suomalainen wrote: Hello Mika, >If you ask on Enigmail mailing list, they will tell you that that >issue is with Mailman (or other mailing list software) which messes up >with headers and makes PGP/MIME unverifiable. They will also say that Headers are ou

Re: ideal.dll // fixing thread breaking

2012-06-29 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 06/29/2012 08:06 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: >> If you ask on Enigmail mailing list, they will tell you that that >> issue is with Mailman (or other mailing list software) which messes up >> with headers and makes PGP/MIME unverifiable. They will also say that > > Headers are outside what is signed,

Re: ideal.dll // fixing thread breaking

2012-06-29 Thread Steve
Hey all, not meaning to spark up new discussions about this issue (we've had that before). But I really think, the energy invested in this discussion would be better invested in writing mailman tweaks. Also, someone mentioned, that there already in fact *is* a mailman patch for PGP/MIME to wor

Re: ideal.dll // fixing thread breaking

2012-06-29 Thread Steve
Oh dear. I found it. The bug has been reported 2003: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/265961 I wish I had better coding skills, but I don't. Sorry I can't code the fix... signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ G

Re: ideal.dll // fixing thread breaking

2012-06-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:00:03 +0200 Steve wrote: Hello Steve, >not meaning to spark up new discussions about this issue (we've had >that before). But I really think, the energy invested in this It was not my intention to "open old wounds" as it were. I was curious about Mika's statement, which

Re: ideal.dll // fixing thread breaking

2012-06-29 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 29.06.2012 15:06, Brad Rogers kirjoitti: > Headers are outside what is signed, surely? > > Changing, adding or removing headers should have no bearing on the > validity of PGP signatures. If header changes were involved, > nothing would be verifiabl

Re: ideal.dll // fixing thread breaking

2012-06-29 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 06/29/2012 12:00 PM, Steve wrote: > not meaning to spark up new discussions about this issue (we've had that > before). But I really think, the energy invested in this discussion > would be better invested in writing mailman tweaks. In the language of software engineering, this has moved from a

Re: ideal.dll // fixing thread breaking

2012-06-29 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 06/29/2012 12:26 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: > Seems okay here; Most messages check out, be they inline or MIME > signed. IMO, if your client is showing correct PGP/MIME signatures on this list, you should file a defect report about your client. The message has been changed in transit and is no lo

Re: ideal.dll // fixing thread breaking

2012-06-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:02:57 +0300 Mika Suomalainen wrote: Hello Mika, >I am using GMail as headers probably say if you look at them. The form address is hotmail. Message ID is hotmail, too. gmail *is* mentioned, but not in any of the transport headers. Anyhow, Robert has explained where and

Re: ideal.dll // fixing thread breaking

2012-06-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:48:28 -0400 "Robert J. Hansen" wrote: Hello Robert, >Mika is more or less right, except it isn't headers -- it's the PGP/MIME >attachment separator. Mailman makes a very slight tweak and that's That makes more sense. I thought I must have been going mad. :-) >This ma

Re: ideal.dll // fixing thread breaking

2012-06-29 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 06/29/2012 12:02 PM, Steve wrote: > Oh dear. I found it. The bug has been reported > 2003: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/265961 That bug turned out to be in Enigmail, not Mailman. Mailman was repackaging the attachment in a way that was technically valid but which Enigmail wasn't exp