Re: ftp down

2024-08-23 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-08-22 Alex via Gnupg-users wrote: [...] > In case ftp is something which should be still provided maybe twoftpd could > be an option. > https://packages.debian.org/buster/twoftpd > http://www.untroubled.org/twoftpd/ [...] Hello, Sure, a package removed from Debian about two years ago be

Re: ftp down

2024-08-23 Thread Jakob Bohm via Gnupg-users
On 2024-08-23 06:27, Ineiev via Gnupg-users wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 02:01:15PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: Those who already have GPG and the release-signing keys can verify the next version of GPG that way. To anyone who doesn't already have GPG, HTTPS is the best integrity protection th

Re: ftp down

2024-08-22 Thread Ineiev via Gnupg-users
On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 02:01:15PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > > Those who already have GPG and the release-signing keys can verify the > next version of GPG that way. To anyone who doesn't already have GPG, > HTTPS is the best integrity protection they will get. Meeting Werner in person may be

Re: ftp down

2024-08-22 Thread Ineiev via Gnupg-users
On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 07:12:37PM -0500, Jacob Bachmeyer via Gnupg-users wrote: > > [...] > > > I would encourage resuming FTP distribution, since I see no > > > plausible security benefit to omitting it. > > > > For the download usecase, I see no plausible benefit to providing FTP > > service in

Re: ftp down

2024-08-22 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer via Gnupg-users
Björn Persson wrote: Jacob Bachmeyer via Gnupg-users wrote: Unlike HTTP, FTP is /not/ subject to simple Man-on-the-Side attacks (which motivated the rush to HTTPS) because there is no in-protocol redirect. So FTP isn't vulnerable to that particular attack, ... which is important bec

Re: ftp down

2024-08-22 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer via Gnupg-users
Werner Koch wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 19:09, Jacob Bachmeyer said: configured for anonymous-only. FTP is both simple and ancient, so I Yes, the protocol is simple but most server implementaions are pretty complex. That is why we settled for oftpd nearly decades ago. And as we see

Re: ftp down

2024-08-22 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 14:01, Björn Persson said: > next version of GPG that way. To anyone who doesn't already have GPG, > HTTPS is the best integrity protection they will get. Not really. This does not protect the files on the server. Only the .sig and the checksums posted to several places can

Re: ftp down

2024-08-22 Thread Björn Persson
Jacob Bachmeyer via Gnupg-users wrote: > Unlike HTTP, FTP is /not/ subject to simple Man-on-the-Side attacks > (which motivated the rush to HTTPS) because there is no in-protocol > redirect. So FTP isn't vulnerable to that particular attack, and attackers have to resort to TCP hijacking or DNS p

Re: ftp down

2024-08-22 Thread Alex via Gnupg-users
Hi. On 2024-08-22 (Do.) 09:48, Werner Koch via Gnupg-users wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 19:09, Jacob Bachmeyer said: configured for anonymous-only. FTP is both simple and ancient, so I Yes, the protocol is simple but most server implementaions are pretty complex. That is why we settled for o

Re: ftp down

2024-08-22 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 19:09, Jacob Bachmeyer said: > configured for anonymous-only. FTP is both simple and ancient, so I Yes, the protocol is simple but most server implementaions are pretty complex. That is why we settled for oftpd nearly decades ago. And as we see we are already building a fil

Re: ftp down

2024-08-21 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer via Gnupg-users
Werner Koch wrote: On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 19:19, Jacob Bachmeyer said: I would suggest checking what ftpd Debian ships and using that. They don't provide oftpd anymore which is an anonymous only ftpd. All others have a way larger attack surface. I would be very surprised if whatever t

Re: ftp down

2024-08-20 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 19:19, Jacob Bachmeyer said: > I would suggest checking what ftpd Debian ships and using that. They don't provide oftpd anymore which is an anonymous only ftpd. All others have a way larger attack surface. Salam-Shalom, Werner -- The pioneers of a warless world are th

Re: ftp down

2024-08-20 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer via Gnupg-users
Werner Koch wrote: On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 00:26, Jacob Bachmeyer said: I would encourage resuming FTP distribution, since I see no plausible security benefit to omitting it. I agree with your arguments. However, not providing FTP saves us from a lot of bike shedding discussions ;-)

Re: ftp down

2024-08-20 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 10:49, jman said: > All technical considerations aside, would it make it sense to make it > official with a short announcement, even "a posteriori"? I just pushed a short NEWS to the web server frontpage. > a very visible project, probably good communication is beneficial fo

Re: ftp down

2024-08-20 Thread jman via Gnupg-users
Werner Koch via Gnupg-users writes: I agree with your arguments. However, not providing FTP saves us from a lot of bike shedding discussions ;-) All technical considerations aside, would it make it sense to make it official with a short announcement, even "a posteriori"? My reasoning be

Re: ftp down

2024-08-20 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 00:26, Jacob Bachmeyer said: > I would encourage resuming FTP distribution, since I see no plausible > security benefit to omitting it. I agree with your arguments. However, not providing FTP saves us from a lot of bike shedding discussions ;-) Another reason why we stopped

Re: ftp down

2024-08-19 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer via Gnupg-users
Werner Koch via Gnupg-users wrote: Hi! Thanks for mentioning this. On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 13:49, Jan Palus said: FTP service at ftp.gnupg.org appears to be down for some time. Couldn't find any info about FTP decommissioning so just letting you know about the problem. I would not consid

Re: ftp down

2024-08-19 Thread Marco Moock
Am 19.08.2024 um 12:58:36 Uhr schrieb Dennis Clarke via Gnupg-users: > Surely you mean gopher ? FTP and TFTP are much loved. :) The amount of gopherholes is also increasing. -- Gruß Marco Send unsolicited bulk mail to 1724065116mu...@cartoonies.org _

Re: ftp down

2024-08-19 Thread Dennis Clarke via Gnupg-users
On 8/19/24 05:34, Werner Koch via Gnupg-users wrote: Hi! Thanks for mentioning this. On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 13:49, Jan Palus said: FTP service at ftp.gnupg.org appears to be down for some time. Couldn't find any info about FTP decommissioning so just letting you know about the problem. I would

Re: ftp down

2024-08-19 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
Hi! Thanks for mentioning this. On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 13:49, Jan Palus said: > FTP service at ftp.gnupg.org appears to be down for some > time. Couldn't find any > info about FTP decommissioning so just letting you know about the problem. I would not considere this a problem but something which we

ftp down

2024-08-17 Thread Jan Palus via Gnupg-users
FTP service at ftp.gnupg.org appears to be down for some time. Couldn't find any info about FTP decommissioning so just letting you know about the problem. Regards, Jan ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org https://lists.gnupg.org/mailman

FTP down?

2014-02-10 Thread Scott Stevson
Hey all, I'm new to the site so please excuse me if I'm not using the appropriate list. I'm trying to install libgcrypt but my connection to the FTP server times out when I brew install or try to hit the download location from the GnuPG home page. Does anyone know if the server is down? thx, S