Re: Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

2013-06-11 Thread Henry Hertz Hobbit
On 06/10/2013 08:46 AM, Henry Hertz Hobbit wrote: > is because for what ever reason they want to complain like mad > about Prism but then go to Facebook and broadcast their personal > lives to the entire world. Why? I would like to say I don't > know why and that it could be used for a doctoral

Re: Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

2013-06-11 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: > From: Zece > Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 20:19:39 + Cut the crap. This list is for GPG encryption. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with

Re: Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

2013-06-11 Thread Zece
Henry Hertz Hobbit : > I think I will watch the programs on the D-Day veterans > so I can get out of this time warp factor we are in right now for > a while. Those people back then weren't stupid. They cracked the > Enigma, the Lorenz, and most of the Japanese codes as well. I > should have lived

Re: Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

2013-06-11 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 10 June 2013 10:46, Henry Hertz Hobbit wrote: > My personal observations agrees with Rob Hansen's studies 100%. > Even when required to use encryption people hate doing it and > their concept is entirely focused on the ciphering with them > thinking that people who use encryption are trying to

Re: Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

2013-06-11 Thread NdK
Il 11/06/2013 16:10, ved...@nym.hush.com ha scritto: > (It might attract also a criminal element clientele and be fairly profitable, > but then law enforcement can try to go the hardware key-logger route.) As long as decryption is done client-side (I've used JS libraries that could do RSA2048 in

Re: Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

2013-06-11 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:15:08 -0400 Avi articulated: > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Fernando Cassia > wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Jean-David Beyer > > > > wrote: > > > >> But none of that will work on my Prius. > > > > as much as I like cars,before this list turns into "T

Re: Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

2013-06-11 Thread Avi
You mean that you we should clutch to the main topic and brake any off-topic tangents before they drive the thread completely off-road? Or are you just tire_d of how these threads wheel around with no differential between the main theme and non-themes, and no filter to steer the thread back to one

Re: Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

2013-06-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Jean-David Beyer wrote: > But none of that will work on my Prius. as much as I like cars,before this list turns into "Top Gear", can we get this thread back *on track* please? TIA... FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revoluti

Re: Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

2013-06-11 Thread vedaal
I drive a GMC Suburban, terrible gas mileage, but roomy and relatively sturdy if there is an unavoidable accident by someone driving too fast, or out of control, and slamming into me. (Have walked away unharmed, with a minor tail-light cover break, while the other car was totaled. (Driver wore a

Re: Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

2013-06-11 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 06/11/2013 12:23 AM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > On 6/10/2013 11:37 PM, Jean-David Beyer wrote: >> Of course he did not seriously propose the idea as a real course of >> action. But it is interesting to think about. > > I drive a Mustang GT with enough engine work to make it genuinely > dangerou

Re: Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

2013-06-11 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 06/11/2013 12:23 AM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > On 6/10/2013 11:37 PM, Jean-David Beyer wrote: >> Of course he did not seriously propose the idea as a real course of >> action. But it is interesting to think about. > > I drive a Mustang GT with enough engine work to make it genuinely > dangerou

Re: Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

2013-06-10 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 6/10/2013 11:37 PM, Jean-David Beyer wrote: > Of course he did not seriously propose the idea as a real course of > action. But it is interesting to think about. I drive a Mustang GT with enough engine work to make it genuinely dangerous to unprepared drivers. When I was taking a couple of ad

Re: Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

2013-06-10 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Jean-David Beyer wrote: > He said the added complexity would have two benefits: I've said for years that in the ages of dial-up internet, particularly the DOS+Windows 3.x years, people had a barrier of entry in getting a dial-up modem, getting the right RS232 ca

Re: Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

2013-06-10 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 06/10/2013 03:39 PM, Mark Rousell wrote: > I just wanted to say that you have neatly encapsulated my feelings > on the subject: Stupid is in vogue. > > My concern is that it will be for a long time to come. It is > ironic that technology is, to a considerable extent, what has made > it possibl

Re: Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

2013-06-10 Thread Mark Rousell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/06/2013 09:46, Henry Hertz Hobbit wrote: > My personal observations agrees with Rob Hansen's studies 100%. > Even when required to use encryption people hate doing it and their > concept is entirely focused on the ciphering with them thinking >

Re: Re: Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

2013-06-10 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Jean-David Beyer wrote: > In fact, most no longer use e-mail, but > Facebook, Twitter, and so on. > Well, you must have a valid working e-mail address to sign up to any of the above mentioned. When they want to reset their passwords, they are sent a verification

Fwd: Re: Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

2013-06-10 Thread Jean-David Beyer
Sorry, I sent it privately by mistake... Original Message Subject: Re: Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 06:59:59 -0400 From: Jean-David Beyer Organization: Institute for Regimented Whimsey To: Johan Wevers On 06/10/2013 06:40 AM

Re: Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

2013-06-10 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:40:07PM +0200, Johan Wevers wrote: > On 10-06-2013 10:46, Henry Hertz Hobbit wrote: > > > Nobody but me uses my signatures on the stuff I > > deliver. It isn't because my keys aren't part of the WOT. It > > is because for what ever reason they want to complain like mad

Re: Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

2013-06-10 Thread Johan Wevers
On 10-06-2013 10:46, Henry Hertz Hobbit wrote: > Nobody but me uses my signatures on the stuff I > deliver. It isn't because my keys aren't part of the WOT. It > is because for what ever reason they want to complain like mad > about Prism but then go to Facebook and broadcast their personal > li

Re: Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

2013-06-10 Thread Jan Eden
Well... most people in 1940 were not capable of cracking the Enigma or even aware of encryption technology. In fact, most human beings are "stupid" in that they do not seek to understand the inner workings of systems around them. This is simply a pragmatic approach: As long as something works as

Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

2013-06-10 Thread Henry Hertz Hobbit
My personal observations agrees with Rob Hansen's studies 100%. Even when required to use encryption people hate doing it and their concept is entirely focused on the ciphering with them thinking that people who use encryption are trying to hide something. They don't even begin to understand that s