Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-03-12 Thread Joey Castillo
> > On 20/02/15 09:32, NdK wrote: > > 1 - support for more keys (expired ENC keys, multiple signature keys) > At the very least, adding expired ENC keys to the card spec is a really great suggestion. I'm trying to pitch people on using smart cards to secure their email, and one common question I g

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-03-02 Thread NdK
Il 01/03/2015 21:54, Peter Lebbing ha scritto: > No, I'm talking about that as well. And I don't think the fingerprint of > the host is part of the signed data or the signature. Why do you think the > fingerprint of the host is part of that? Because I didn't remember well the SSH protocol... > By

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-03-01 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 01/03/15 17:43, NdK wrote: > while I was talking of remote user auth (so using openpgp card instead of > ~/.ssh/id_* keys -- something that's already doable). No, I'm talking about that as well. And I don't think the fingerprint of the host is part of the signed data or the signature. Why do yo

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-27 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 27/02/15 21:59, NdK wrote: > For auth it should be the hash of the host's pub key, the same SSH shows > you the first time you connect to that host. I think you're confusing /host/ authentication and /user/ authentication. I was talking about using the auth key on your OpenPGP card to do user a

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-27 Thread NdK
Il 27/02/2015 19:43, Peter Lebbing ha scritto: > I don't understand the practical difference between HOTP and the button > to confirm an action. That the HOTP doesn't need HW support so it can be implemented in standard smartcards. >> If that info is embedded in the signature packet, it could add

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-27 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 21/02/15 19:54, NdK wrote: >>> 4 - HOTP PINs for signature/certification keys >> What generates the HOTP then? Do you type a PIN on the HOTP device to get >> the HOTP? > No need. Just an applet on the phone could do. At least if you aren't > using the same phone to do the crypto. I don't under

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-22 Thread NdK
Il 22/02/2015 01:46, Yuji -UG- Imai ha scritto: > For token type card, how about appending one more usb port to connect > keyboard? It's just for inputing PIN/passphrase or out-of-bound auth > by hitting the Enter key. USB ten keys like V7 KP0N1-7N0P Numeric keypad > looks suitable for this purpos

Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-21 Thread Yuji -UG- Imai
Hi, 2015年2月20日金曜日、NdK>さんは書きました: > Hello all. > > What I'd like to see addressed in future card > 6 - support for out-of-band authorization (HW) > For token type card, how about appending one more usb port to connect keyboard? It's just for inputing PIN/passphrase or out-of-bound auth by hitting

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-21 Thread NdK
Il 21/02/2015 17:54, Daniel Kahn Gillmor ha scritto: > If the malware is keeping the session keys around, it can just keep the > session keys for everything you ever decrypt, and use them anyway to > access your encrypted documents, independent of your button-presses. Or just sniff the PIN. > You

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-21 Thread NdK
Il 21/02/2015 12:51, Peter Lebbing ha scritto: >> 1 - support for more keys (expired ENC keys, multiple signature keys) > Yes! This would be a great feature to keep expired encryption keys on a card. > I > personally would have no use for more than 1 signature and 1 authentication > key, > but I

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-21 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Sat 2015-02-21 06:51:15 -0500, Peter Lebbing wrote: > Oh ouch. I suddenly realise something about the canary press-to-decrypt button > (point 6). I've thought of a nasty attack. Maybe it's not such a great canary > for decryption keys... > > So I access mail A, which is encrypted, and my PC is c

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-21 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 20/02/15 09:32, NdK wrote: > 1 - support for more keys (expired ENC keys, multiple signature keys) Yes! This would be a great feature to keep expired encryption keys on a card. I personally would have no use for more than 1 signature and 1 authentication key, but I don't see a reason why you wo

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-20 Thread NdK
Il 20/02/2015 16:07, Ville Määttä ha scritto: 5 - possibility to export private keys to user-certified devices That pretty much defeats the point of using a smart card in the first place. >> That's not "uncontrolled export", and in fact… >> …(snip)… >> while importing a key (so tha

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-20 Thread Ville Määttä
On 20.02.15 15:27, NdK wrote: >>> 5 - possibility to export private keys to user-certified devices >> > That pretty much defeats the point of using a smart card in the first >> > place. > That's not "uncontrolled export", and in fact… > …(snip)… > while importing a key (so that you "can't" alter -

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-20 Thread NdK
Il 20/02/2015 11:36, Jonathan Schleifer ha scritto: >> 1 - support for more keys (expired ENC keys, multiple signature keys) > And maybe for storing a certification key with a different PIN. Wasn't it covered by 2 - different PINs for different keys ? :) >> 5 - possibility to export private keys

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-20 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 20.02.2015 um 09:32 schrieb NdK : > 1 - support for more keys (expired ENC keys, multiple signature keys) And maybe for storing a certification key with a different PIN. > 5 - possibility to export private keys to user-certified devices That pretty much defeats the point of using a smart car

Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-20 Thread NdK
Hello all. What I'd like to see addressed in future card specifications: 1 - support for more keys (expired ENC keys, multiple signature keys) 2 - different PINs for different keys 3 - separate key for NFC auth (with its own optional PIN) 4 - HOTP PINs for signature/certification keys 5 - possibil