On 2013-02-23, Jerry wrote:
>
> Well, each to his/her own I suppose; however, I would not approve of
> the file being sent to my PC regardless. There is always the
> possibility of the email being intercepted and exploited or my PC being
> compromised.
There is a security element to this, but it
>Figuring out how to install an app is not the problem. Figuring out
>how to *use OpenPGP* is the problem. The app is not the same as the
>amount of specialized knowledge required to use the app successfully.
The installation problem takes care of the other. Hushmail users need
not know any mor
On Sat, 2 Mar 2013, Anonymous wrote:
. . .
It's really not a good time to attempt to prop these guys up, when
every economy in the world is suffering acutely from their colossal
and aggregate incompetence.
Not to mention the situations where available intelligence
was used to do various cheats
>Figuring out how to install an app is not the problem. Figuring out
>how to *use OpenPGP* is the problem. The app is not the same as the
>amount of specialized knowledge required to use the app successfully.
The installation problem takes care of the other. Hushmail users need
not know any mor
>On 02/25/2013 03:20 PM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote:
>> Where does this idea that a business case must be recognized by all
>> suppliers for an entire industry in a whole country before it "works"?
>No one, but your statement seemed to be a severe overgeneralization.
You're the one that
On 3/2/13 11:06 AM, Anonymous wrote:
> The installation problem takes care of the other. Hushmail users need
> not know any more than yahoo users when opening an account. A HM user
> may not even be aware that PGP is in play, or what PGP is.
At this point I'm giving up on this conversation. It'
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 05:10:01PM -0500, Anonymous wrote:
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> In the states, the trend of banks offering proprietary apps for
> smartphones is snowballing. Banks what users to take their software
> so bad they're offering free miles and contests to get customers to
> take the bait. Such an
On 02/25/2013 05:10 PM, Anonymous wrote:
> Ing in Netherlands distributes software (windows, mac, and linux
> versions) - so apparently it's easy enough for enough average joe's to
> figure out how to install an app.
Figuring out how to install an app is not the problem. Figuring out how
to *use
>> Ship a device.
>Meaning what, exactly? At first blush you seem to be trading one
>problem for another: people don't know how to use GnuPG, so ship a
>device and now they don't know how to use the device.
Ing in Netherlands distributes software (windows, mac, and linux
versions) - so apparentl
On 02/25/2013 03:20 PM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote:
> Where does this idea that a business case must be recognized by all
> suppliers for an entire industry in a whole country before it "works"?
No one, but your statement seemed to be a severe overgeneralization.
Declaring that something w
>> Why does the business case work in Germany?
>It doesn't. It works for one particular bank. It doesn't work for
>Germany as a whole.
Where does this idea that a business case must be recognized by all
suppliers for an entire industry in a whole country before it "works"?
A business case can
Well, there is a way to find out whether it works. Those who care
deeply about this should get together, raise some capital, and open
NerdBank(tm) where they can do business their way, and see how it
goes. There's plenty of room right now for people who want to
reimagine the retail banking busine
On 02/24/2013 03:27 PM, Jay Sulzberger wrote:
> Ship a device.
Meaning what, exactly? At first blush you seem to be trading one
problem for another: people don't know how to use GnuPG, so ship a
device and now they don't know how to use the device.
> Your argument seems to show that, in order to
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
On 02/24/2013 08:21 AM, Anonymous wrote:
You seem to imply that Americans are less capable or less interested
in PGP-protected mail.
Oh, please. This is pure projection.
The German bank "1822 Direkt" sends PGP encrypted bank statements to
th
On 02/24/2013 08:21 AM, Anonymous wrote:
> You seem to imply that Americans are less capable or less interested
> in PGP-protected mail.
Oh, please. This is pure projection.
> The German bank "1822 Direkt" sends PGP encrypted bank statements to
> their customers. Someone mentioned another Germa
>OpenPGP, no, because there's no business case for them to do so.
>OpenPGP users represent a phenomenally small fraction of their userbase
>(probably <1%) and would account for a large fraction of their tech
>support questions.
You seem to imply that Americans are less capable or less interested
i
On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:31:26 +
Andy Ruddock articulated:
> Jerry wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:55:57 -0500 Robert J. Hansen articulated:
> >
> >> On 02/22/2013 01:24 PM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote:
> >>> Have any consumer banks in the US figured out how to use PGP,
> >>> so monthl
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Jerry wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:55:57 -0500 Robert J. Hansen articulated:
>
>> On 02/22/2013 01:24 PM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote:
>>> Have any consumer banks in the US figured out how to use PGP,
>>> so monthly statements can be truly *
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m...@jama.is wrote:
> On Friday 22 February 2013 19:24:44 Anonymous Remailer wrote:
>> Have any consumer banks in the US figured out how to use PGP, so
>> monthly statements can be trully *delivered*?
>
> The only bank I know that is able to receive
On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:55:57 -0500
Robert J. Hansen articulated:
> On 02/22/2013 01:24 PM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote:
> > Have any consumer banks in the US figured out how to use PGP, so
> > monthly statements can be truly *delivered*?
>
> OpenPGP, no, because there's no business case fo
On Friday 22 February 2013 19:24:44 Anonymous Remailer wrote:
> Have any consumer banks in the US figured out how to use PGP, so
> monthly statements can be trully *delivered*?
The only bank I know that is able to receive pgp encrypted emails is the
German netbank. But they don't sent out pgp enc
On 02/22/2013 01:24 PM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote:
> Have any consumer banks in the US figured out how to use PGP, so
> monthly statements can be truly *delivered*?
OpenPGP, no, because there's no business case for them to do so.
OpenPGP users represent a phenomenally small fraction of th
Have any consumer banks in the US figured out how to use PGP, so
monthly statements can be trully *delivered*?
(as opposed to getting a plaintext message troubling clients to login
via some GUI and point-click-point-click-point-click)
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