Re: UK Investigatory Powers Bill

2016-05-05 Thread Steve Karmeinsky
On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 11:33:34AM +0100, keith wrote: > Otherwise welcome to Full On Hard Core DPI across the whole of the UK > that is going to affect all internal traffic and anything transiting the > borders Not that you could trust them, or others, anyway but it > might be time to set up

Re: UK Investigatory Powers Bill

2016-05-05 Thread keith
On Thu, 2016-05-05 at 00:48 +0100, Steve Karmeinsky wrote: > On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 11:15:47PM +0100, MFPA wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA512 > > On Wednesday 4 May 2016 at 6:04:55 PM, in > > , keith wrote: > > > Personally I almost realise that > > > some of this ma

Re: UK Investigatory Powers Bill

2016-05-04 Thread Julian H. Stacey
> > > This UK legislation will have impact elsewhere. Too many wind mills, too little time ;-) - The world has excess ignorant "Regulate Crypto" politicians & & civil servants paid to push laws. - National cryptography vendors, systems houses, banks etc may have more commercial interest to fun

Re: UK Investigatory Powers Bill

2016-05-04 Thread Steve Karmeinsky
On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 11:15:47PM +0100, MFPA wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > On Wednesday 4 May 2016 at 6:04:55 PM, in > , keith wrote: > > Personally I almost realise that > > some of this may be > > needed and/or indeed necessary > By contrast, I am 100% certain th

Re: UK Investigatory Powers Bill

2016-05-04 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Wednesday 4 May 2016 at 6:04:55 PM, in , keith wrote: > Personally I almost realise that > some of this may be > needed and/or indeed necessary By contrast, I am 100% certain that none of it is needed. If "the authorities" think they need ac

Re: UK Investigatory Powers Bill

2016-05-04 Thread keith
.. I should really sort out which e-mails I have a clue about.. On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 16:30 +0100, Steve Karmeinsky wrote: > On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 03:38:18PM +0100, keith wrote: > > > This UK legislation will have impact elsewhere. > > Currently encryption isn't banned, however say you encrypt

Re: UK Investigatory Powers Bill

2016-05-04 Thread Steve Karmeinsky
On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 03:38:18PM +0100, keith wrote: > This UK legislation will have impact elsewhere. Currently encryption isn't banned, however say you encrypt an email and send it to someone and the 'authorities' want to read it, they can then force you to hand over the keys and if you refus

UK Investigatory Powers Bill

2016-05-04 Thread keith
Feel free to ignore me. As you may know the UK Government is attempting to update or otherwise consolidate its legislation in respect of access to Communications and Other Data for the purposes of law enforcement. In part that is what raised my interest in encryption and caused me to join this lis