Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-10 Thread Michael Daigle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 In reply to Chris De Young's message sent 2005-08-09 17:24: >> I primarily use inlined PGP because I'm tired of having my S/MIME >> signed mail bounced back to me as undeliverable because "pkcs7 >> signature is listed as a dangerous attachment on

Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-10 Thread Alphax
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Chris De Young wrote: > Maybe there are a few who wonder enough what it is you're sending them > to go figure it out; if so, that's a win, but I doubt it happens very > often. :) > Don't underestimate it. I saw "Using Enigmail with Thunderbird"

Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-10 Thread Alphax
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Michael Daigle wrote: > It's unfortunate, but it's prevalent - and that's why inlined PGP is a > good thing. We can still retain message authentication despite the > goof-ball between us and the recipient. Quite often, the goof-ball *is* the rec

Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-09 Thread Johan Wevers
David Srbecky wrote: >I do not use inline because I find the extra stuff annoying. However, >MIME can look really nasty too. That's I would prefer to save the >signature in the mail headers. That would be easy to do in a X-PGP-Signature header or something similar. The X- headers are free to us

Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-09 Thread Chris De Young
> I primarily use inlined PGP because I'm tired of having my S/MIME signed > mail bounced back to me as undeliverable because "pkcs7 signature is > listed as a dangerous attachment on this server". What's so dangerous > about a S/MIME signature?! Apparently, it's the same danger that's > present in

Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-09 Thread Thomas Kuehne
David Srbecky schrieb: > Thomas Kuehne wrote: > >> Alphax schrieb: >> >> >>> Thomas Kuehne wrote: >>> >>> > Points taken - Have you ever looked at an signed (using MIME) > message in > OutlookExpress? RRR . >>> >>> >>> Sorry, I've never used Lookout. >> >> >> >> The attach

Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-09 Thread Michael Daigle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 In reply to Greg Sabino Mullane's message sent 2005-08-09 11:26: * My email has a much better chance of reaching people whose systems bounce (or discard!) attachments. > >>> Are there really a lot of such systems? I've encountered ve

Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-09 Thread Zeljko Vrba
Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: I should have said "whose systems bounce (or discard!) emails with attachments." I can say that I've worked in such company. Oddly enough, the server seemed to strip only the application/pgp, or whatever the MIME type is, replacing it with some bogus MS-TNEF attachme

Re: Arguments for inline PGP (was: Leave clearsigned content encoding alone, how?)

2005-08-09 Thread Greg Sabino Mullane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> * My email has a much better chance of reaching people whose >> systems bounce (or discard!) attachments. > Are there really a lot of such systems? I've encountered very few > that bounce messages with attachments, and if they discard attachment

Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-09 Thread Werner Koch
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 13:43:40 +0200, Thomas Kuehne said: > OutlookExpress displays the message just like Mozilla or KMail without > encryption plugins. Use a MIME compliant MUA and not such a spam/DoS/virus vector. Shalom-Salam, Werner ___ Gnupg-

Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-09 Thread David Srbecky
Thomas Kuehne wrote: Alphax schrieb: Thomas Kuehne wrote: Points taken - Have you ever looked at an signed (using MIME) message in OutlookExpress? RRR . Sorry, I've never used Lookout. The attachment is a snapshoot of David Srbecky's recent MIME signed post "Re: Extra infor

Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-09 Thread Thomas Kuehne
Alphax schrieb: > Thomas Kuehne wrote: > >>>Points taken - Have you ever looked at an signed (using MIME) message in >>>OutlookExpress? RRR . > > Sorry, I've never used Lookout. The attachment is a snapshoot of David Srbecky's recent MIME signed post "Re: Extra information in public

Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-09 Thread Alphax
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Thomas Kuehne wrote: > Points taken - Have you ever looked at an signed (using MIME) message in > OutlookExpress? RRR . > > > Thomas > Sorry, I've never used Lookout. - -- Alphax | /"\ Encrypted Email Prefer

Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-09 Thread Thomas Kuehne
Chris De Young schrieb: > On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 01:45:02AM -, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: > >>>Just say no to inline PGP! >> >>Some reasons I use inline: >> > I see your points, but in my opinion they aren't worth giving up the > benefits of MIME -- especially in what one hopes will be a

Re: Arguments for inline PGP (was: Leave clearsigned content encoding alone, how?)

2005-08-09 Thread Chris De Young
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 01:45:02AM -, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: > > > Just say no to inline PGP! > > Some reasons I use inline: > > * My email has a much better chance of reaching people whose > systems bounce (or discard!) attachments. Are there really a lot of such systems? I've encounte