Re: RFE: --update-before-use

2012-06-17 Thread David Shaw
On Jun 17, 2012, at 7:36 AM, Michel Messerschmidt wrote: > On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 05:32:36PM -0400, David Shaw wrote: >> Yes, I understand that spreading out keyserver requests can help avoid this >> sort of tracking, but remember that the keyserver URL feature allows the >> keyholder to bypass

Re: RFE: --update-before-use

2012-06-17 Thread Michel Messerschmidt
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 05:32:36PM -0400, David Shaw wrote: > Yes, I understand that spreading out keyserver requests can help avoid this > sort of tracking, but remember that the keyserver URL feature allows the > keyholder to bypass the keyserver chosen by the user, and send the requests > any

Re: RFE: --update-before-use

2012-06-16 Thread David Shaw
On Jun 15, 2012, at 12:33 PM, John Clizbe wrote: >> It's a similar problem in type as auto-key-retrieve or auto-key-locate, but >> it's a different problem in degree: both AKR and AKL fire only as needed >> (either when a key is needed for sig verification, or when a key is needed >> to encrypt to

Re: RFE: --update-before-use

2012-06-16 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 15/06/12 18:33, John Clizbe wrote: > You remember where that was? Sounds interesting, and I have plenty of > keyservers here at home to choose from. Werner mentioned it[1] in his reply to this thread: > You should be able to use > > --auto-key-locate nodefault,keyserver -r f...@example.org

Re: RFE: --update-before-use

2012-06-15 Thread John Clizbe
David Shaw wrote: > On Jun 14, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > >>> 1) If the keyserver (of whatever type) isn't reachable... >> >> As you say, easy to solve: agreed. >> >>> 2) Concern that enough people turning this feature on would add >>> significant load to the keyserver network.

Re: RFE: --update-before-use

2012-06-14 Thread David Shaw
On Jun 14, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: >> 1) If the keyserver (of whatever type) isn't reachable... > > As you say, easy to solve: agreed. > >> 2) Concern that enough people turning this feature on would add >> significant load to the keyserver network... > > An open question and

Re: RFE: --update-before-use

2012-06-14 Thread Robert J. Hansen
1) If the keyserver (of whatever type) isn't reachable... As you say, easy to solve: agreed. 2) Concern that enough people turning this feature on would add significant load to the keyserver network... An open question and one we'd need to address: agreed. 3) It leaks information more than

Re: RFE: --update-before-use

2012-06-14 Thread Werner Koch
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 19:48, r...@sixdemonbag.org said: > We already have something similar to this in --auto-key-retrieve, and > the same warnings about that option probably also apply here. The > principal difference would seem to be that auto-key-retrieve only > fetches certificates that are not

Re: RFE: --update-before-use

2012-06-14 Thread David Shaw
On Jun 14, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > Currently, users have a public keyring containing certificates acquired from > many different sources. These certificates are often out of date, sometimes > in minor ways, sometimes in large ones. Since many users now have always-on > and

RFE: --update-before-use

2012-06-14 Thread Robert J. Hansen
Currently, users have a public keyring containing certificates acquired from many different sources. These certificates are often out of date, sometimes in minor ways, sometimes in large ones. Since many users now have always-on and fairly reliable internet connectivity, perhaps it makes sens