Re: Teaching GnuPG to noobs

2015-06-19 Thread Stephan Beck
Am 18.06.2015 um 21:37 schrieb Chuck Peters: > Stephan Beck said: >> Am 16.06.2015 um 15:50 schrieb A.T. Leibson: >> >>> Lastly, what's your favorite noob-friendly guide, and why? >> >> I think that the guide available at (1) >> >> (1) https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en/ > > Potential instructors

Re: Teaching GnuPG to noobs

2015-06-18 Thread Faramir
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 El 17-06-2015 a las 11:15, Robert J. Hansen escribió: ... > The most common one I've found is not understanding the material as > well as they think. This tends to come through most in the > metaphors an instructor uses. For instance, I frequently

Re: Teaching GnuPG to noobs

2015-06-18 Thread Chuck Peters
Stephan Beck said: > Am 16.06.2015 um 15:50 schrieb A.T. Leibson: > > > Lastly, what's your favorite noob-friendly guide, and why? > > I think that the guide available at (1) > > (1) https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en/ Potential instructors: please explain subkeys and how it might be best to

Re: Teaching GnuPG to noobs

2015-06-18 Thread Stephan Beck
Hi, Am 16.06.2015 um 15:50 schrieb A.T. Leibson: > Lastly, what's your favorite noob-friendly guide, and why? I think that the guide available at (1) (1) https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en/ is the most suitable for noobs (as far as I know), because it's straightforward and short. I would no

Re: Teaching GnuPG to noobs

2015-06-18 Thread Werner Koch
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 01:24, br...@minton.name said: > I've never heard of a spring lock, but I looked it up. It is a lock that > anyone can momentarily be unlocked by a key, but when it is not being held > open, shuts and locks itself. According to my translator the German term "Schappschloss" mean

Re: Teaching GnuPG to noobs

2015-06-17 Thread Avi
half Of >> > Robert J. Hansen >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:15 AM >> > To: A.T. Leibson; gnupg-users@gnupg.org >> > Subject: Re: Teaching GnuPG to noobs >> > >> > > What has your experience been teaching inexperienced users how to &

RE: Teaching GnuPG to noobs

2015-06-17 Thread Steven M. Sawczyn
In addition to explaining concepts, the biggest issue for me is simply the steps one has to go through to get it working, steps that don't always result in success. This seems especially problematic for Outlook users, I have yet to find a free solution for Outlook that works reliably. And I do tr

Re: Teaching GnuPG to noobs

2015-06-17 Thread Brian Minton
> > > -Original Message- > > From: Gnupg-users [mailto:gnupg-users-boun...@gnupg.org] On Behalf Of > > Robert J. Hansen > > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:15 AM > > To: A.T. Leibson; gnupg-users@gnupg.org > > Subject: Re: Teaching GnuPG to noobs > >

RE: Teaching GnuPG to noobs

2015-06-17 Thread Charles Spitzer
Regards, Charlie 602.420.4123 > -Original Message- > From: Gnupg-users [mailto:gnupg-users-boun...@gnupg.org] On Behalf Of > Robert J. Hansen > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:15 AM > To: A.T. Leibson; gnupg-users@gnupg.org > Subject: Re: Teaching GnuPG to noobs &g

Re: Teaching GnuPG to noobs

2015-06-17 Thread Werner Koch
On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 16:15, r...@sixdemonbag.org said: > It's absurd. Who in the class has ever seen a lock with two keys, one > that locks it and one that unlocks? The metaphor's ridiculous: the Much better is a spring lock. Bob stores several identical copies of a spring lock at a public plac

RE: Teaching GnuPG to noobs

2015-06-17 Thread Bob (Robert) Cavanaugh
To: A.T. Leibson; gnupg-users@gnupg.org > Subject: Re: Teaching GnuPG to noobs > > > What has your experience been teaching inexperienced users how to use > > GnuPG properly? > > Varies between extremely good and extremely bad with very little in- > between. When addressing

Re: Teaching GnuPG to noobs

2015-06-17 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> What has your experience been teaching inexperienced users how to use > GnuPG properly? Varies between extremely good and extremely bad with very little in-between. When addressing people who have the motivation to learn and the ability to think analytically, it's been great. When addressing p

Re: Teaching GnuPG to noobs

2015-06-16 Thread Damien Goutte-Gattat
On 06/16/2015 03:50 PM, A.T. Leibson wrote: What aspects are the most challenging for new users to understand? I would say: all the stuff related to the concepts of "key validity" and "owner trust". Particularly, the fact that the validity of a given key is automatically determined by looki

Re: Teaching GnuPG to noobs

2015-06-16 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Tuesday 16 June 2015 at 4:22:01 PM, in , Steve Butler wrote: > I generated a set of documents about a decade ago that > someone asked permission to post on the web. Just did > a search and could not find. I'll try to dig through > my thum

RE: Teaching GnuPG to noobs

2015-06-16 Thread Steve Butler
Biggest pitfall -- new users sending me both their public and private keys. Most have a mental block on how these are used. I generated a set of documents about a decade ago that someone asked permission to post on the web. Just did a search and could not find. I'll try to dig through my thum