Re: RFCs, standards, pink bunnies and flower patterns

2006-10-18 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Was Tue, 17 Oct 2006, at 22:07:03 -0500, when Ryan wrote: > On 10/17/06, Mica Mijatovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ... >> There is no any whimsicality in it (the previous message and wider) and >> the answers/observations are given quite

Re: RFCs, standards, pink bunnies and flower patterns

2006-10-18 Thread Mark H. Wood
Precisely. Once MIME enters the picture, the user agent must be looked at as a collection of subsystems driven by the MIME structure of the message. None of the subsystems (other than the MIME parser) *ever* deals with a whole message; the user agent is presented with an assembly of bodyparts and

Re: RFCs, standards, pink bunnies and flower patterns

2006-10-18 Thread Werner Koch
Hi! I have not followed the discussion, so just a short comment. On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:31, Cary Wagner said: > supporting the HTML email format. The bottom line is CAN GPG and others be > made to play nicely with HTML. gpg is unaware of the content. Thus you can sign or encrypt whatever you l

RE: RFCs, standards, pink bunnies and flower patterns

2006-10-17 Thread Cary Wagner
ECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Malayter Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 20:07 To: Mica Mijatovic Subject: Re: RFCs, standards, pink bunnies and flower patterns On 10/17/06, Mica Mijatovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... > There is no any whimsicality in it (the pre

Re: RFCs, standards, pink bunnies and flower patterns

2006-10-17 Thread Ryan Malayter
On 10/17/06, Mica Mijatovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... There is no any whimsicality in it (the previous message and wider) and the answers/observations are given quite sternly and with a quite fine necessary precision. ... It's like reading Ulysses, but as a day in the life of Richard Stall

Re: RFCs, standards, pink bunnies and flower patterns

2006-10-17 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: TIGER192 Was Tue, 17 Oct 2006, at 14:31:34 -0700, when Cary wrote: > Mica, > While your comments are whimsical and, in some case very true, the point is > HTML mail is here to stay. You or I will not stop it. I think the point of > this thread w

RE: RFCs, standards, pink bunnies and flower patterns

2006-10-17 Thread Cary Wagner
Mica Mijatovic Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:21 To: Nicholas Cole Subject: Re: RFCs, standards, pink bunnies and flower patterns -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Was Tue, 17 Oct 2006, at 15:34:39 +0100 (BST), when Nicholas wrote: >> Of course that it doesn&

Re: RFCs, standards, pink bunnies and flower patterns

2006-10-17 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Was Tue, 17 Oct 2006, at 15:34:39 +0100 (BST), when Nicholas wrote: >> Of course that it doesn't mean that HTML should be banished >> completely from the 'lectronic mail world, but it has its essential >> limitations as for the cryptographic

Re: RFCs, standards, pink bunnies and flower patterns was -- Re: GPG Outlook Plug-In and Signatures

2006-10-17 Thread Nicholas Cole
> Nicholas Cole wrote: > > Is there anything else about an HTML email that > raises a red flag > > from a security point of view? > > Define 'HTML email', please. If you're talking > about simple XML, the > security concerns are different than if you're > talking about putting > Javascript + Flas

Re: RFCs, standards, pink bunnies and flower patterns was -- Re: GPG Outlook Plug-In and Signatures

2006-10-17 Thread Ryan Malayter
On 10/17/06, Nicholas Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- Ryan Malayter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Again I must state that one has little to do with > the other. MHTML's > MIME format may not play nice with PGP/MIME's > encapsultation format, > but it didn't *have* to be that way. S/MIME, for

Re: RFCs, standards, pink bunnies and flower patterns was -- Re: GPG Outlook Plug-In and Signatures

2006-10-17 Thread Nicholas Cole
--- Ryan Malayter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Again I must state that one has little to do with > the other. MHTML's > MIME format may not play nice with PGP/MIME's > encapsultation format, > but it didn't *have* to be that way. S/MIME, for > example, seems to > make provisions for playing nicel

Re: RFCs, standards, pink bunnies and flower patterns was -- Re: GPG Outlook Plug-In and Signatures

2006-10-17 Thread Nicholas Cole
> Of course that it doesn't mean that HTML should be > banished completely > from the 'lectronic mail world, but it has its > essential limitations as > for the cryptographic routines. Mica, Thank you for your email. It made me reflect. I had been ignoring this discussion. HTML emails are here

Re: RFCs, standards, pink bunnies and flower patterns was -- Re: GPG Outlook Plug-In and Signatures

2006-10-16 Thread Ryan Malayter
On 10/16/06, Mica Mijatovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: RFCs are not any "standards" nor they are by (their own) definition supposed to be. They are just collection of less or more recommended routines, and often also nothing but the lists of (most usual/mass) _habits_. Many RFCs *are* standar