Re: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signing

2005-06-09 Thread Werner Koch
On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 17:42:13 -0400, Dan Mundy said: > this plugin sounds like a neat idea. will it be featured on the > gnupg.org site? Sure. Salam-Shalom, Werner ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/

Re: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signing

2005-06-08 Thread Dan Mundy
Werner Koch wrote: > On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 11:36:32 +0200, Martin Geisler said: > > >>I don't know how Outlook (not Express) handles things. > > > It won't be possible to verify a signature with Outlook due to the > fact that it is not possible to get to the raw MIME headers. It might > be possi

Re: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signing

2005-06-06 Thread Werner Koch
On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 16:16:54 +0200, Sascha Kiefer said: > The PGP/MIME RFC states that you can first sign and then encrypt the mail. Doing this on the MIME level allows you to easily strip the encryption layer while leaving the signature intact. > In S/MIME it is allowed to first encrypt and the

Re: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signing

2005-06-06 Thread Sascha Kiefer
Werner Koch schrieb: The first of course. Shalom-Salam, Werner Okay, perfekt. The PGP/MIME RFC states that you can first sign and then encrypt the mail. In S/MIME it is allowed to first encrypt and then sign the message. Do you think it's feasible to do the same in PGP/MIME? I think it i

Re: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signing

2005-06-06 Thread Werner Koch
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:45:30 +0200, Kiefer, Sascha said: > Well, as far as i see there is no difference between the MIME format of > rfc2015 and rfc3156. Correct, 3156 has only minor clarifications. > So, what is right? > RFC like: > Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5 > prot

Re: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signing

2005-06-06 Thread Werner Koch
On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 11:36:32 +0200, Martin Geisler said: > I don't know how Outlook (not Express) handles things. It won't be possible to verify a signature with Outlook due to the fact that it is not possible to get to the raw MIME headers. It might be possible to write a plugin which uses heur

Re: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signing

2005-06-05 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
Kiefer, Sascha wrote: >>Possibly the confusion is that RFC-2015 was updated by >>RFC-3156. You should do things the 3156 way. >> >>David > > > Well, as far as i see there is no difference between the MIME format of > rfc2015 and rfc3156. > > So, what is right? > > RFC like: > > Content-Type:

RE: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signing

2005-06-05 Thread Kiefer, Sascha
> Possibly the confusion is that RFC-2015 was updated by > RFC-3156. You should do things the 3156 way. > > David Well, as far as i see there is no difference between the MIME format of rfc2015 and rfc3156. So, what is right? RFC like: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5 pro

Re: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signing

2005-06-05 Thread Martin Geisler
Dan Mundy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Shaw wrote: >> [... all nice features of PGP/MIME...] Plus, plus, plus. > > No minuses, though, i hope? The only thing I've come across is people using Outlook Express: they will see an empty mail with two attachments: your message as one attachment a

Re: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signing

2005-06-04 Thread David Shaw
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 07:12:51PM -0400, Dan Mundy wrote: > David Shaw wrote: > > Plus, plus, plus. > > No minuses, though, i hope? One or two, yes. Mainly that there are programs out there that - even this many years later - don't understand it. Outlook is the chief culprit here. David

Re: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signing

2005-06-04 Thread Dan Mundy
David Shaw wrote: > Plus, plus, plus. No minuses, though, i hope? Dan p.s. i have started using pgp/mime as a default. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mail

Re: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signing

2005-06-04 Thread David Shaw
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 08:30:53PM -0400, Dan Mundy wrote: > hey all, > > i was wondering what the differences between conventional gpg > clearsigning and pgp/mime signing are. which one's better for what? > which should i use more often? please help me! When at all possible, use PGP/MIME. It's

Re: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signing

2005-06-04 Thread David Shaw
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 10:42:51AM +0200, Kiefer, Sascha wrote: > Hmm. > I just implemented RFC2015 3 days ago. > The format of PGP/MIME described in that paper does not match the format > you are using. > Your mails start with a Content-Type of multipart/mixed and you declare > The pgp data as att

RE: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signing

2005-06-04 Thread Kiefer, Sascha
Okay; That's this missing part. Thanks! Regards, Sascha > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Shaw > Sent: Sonntag, 5. Juni 2005 01:01 > To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org > Subject: Re: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME

RE: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signing

2005-06-04 Thread Kiefer, Sascha
Hmmm... No, i think sean is also false. The last mail form ivan boldyrev is encoded right! > -Original Message- > From: Dan Mundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Samstag, 4. Juni 2005 14:21 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: gnupg-users@gnupg.org > Subject: Re: GnuPG Clea

Re: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signing

2005-06-04 Thread Dan Mundy
Kiefer, Sascha wrote: >Hmm. >I just implemented RFC2015 3 days ago. >The format of PGP/MIME described in that paper does not match the format >you are using. >Your mails start with a Content-Type of multipart/mixed and you declare >The pgp data as attachments. But this is not true. >Maybe I'm miss

Re: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signing

2005-06-04 Thread Ivan Boldyrev
On 9130 day of my life Dan Mundy wrote: > hey all, > > i was wondering what the differences between conventional gpg > clearsigning and pgp/mime signing are. which one's better for what? > which should i use more often? please help me! Clearsigning can be processed by recipient even if his mail c

RE: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signing

2005-06-04 Thread Kiefer, Sascha
5 08:26 > To: Dan Mundy; gnupg-users@gnupg.org > Subject: Re: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signing > > > Clearsigning is good because it allows anyone to verify the > signature no matter what their system. Some people like to > use the current window function of PGP and front

Re: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signing

2005-06-04 Thread Sean C. C.
Clearsigning is good because it allows anyone to verify the signature no matter what their system. Some people like to use the current window function of PGP and front-ends for GPG such as GPGshell. PGP/Mime is good for sending mail to many people some of whom have no idea of what PGP/GPG is. Using

[Fwd: Re: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signing]

2005-06-03 Thread Dan Mundy
--- Begin Message --- I'm wondering which kind of signing you did on this mail? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Mundy > Sent: Samstag, 4. Juni 2005 02:31 > To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org > Subject: GnuPG Clearsign vs. PGP/MIME Signin