Re: On message signing and Enigmail...

2012-02-02 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 09:26:18PM +, gn...@lists.grepular.com wrote: > On 01/02/12 21:12, Doug Barton wrote: > >> I've posted using the same key on probably a dozen mailing lists, > >> I use it for all of my personal and work email. I use it to sign > >> all of the comments on my blog. I use i

Re: On message signing and Enigmail...

2012-02-01 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 2/1/12 5:14 PM, Christopher J. Walters wrote: > On 2/1/2012 04:53 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: >> Easily forged, and machines are too easy to compromise. This >> idea that an IP address is clear and convincing evidence of >> origin is absolute bonkers. An IP address is evidence of >> *routing*.

Re: On message signing and Enigmail...

2012-02-01 Thread Jerry
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 16:53:48 -0500 Robert J. Hansen articulated: > Maybe I have a darker view of human nature than you do, that's > certainly possible, but I think it's a critical mistake to apply > rational-actor theory to criminals. (It's just as critical of a > mistake to apply rational-actor

Re: On message signing and Enigmail...

2012-02-01 Thread Christopher J. Walters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2/1/2012 04:53 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > Easily forged, and machines are too easy to compromise. This idea that > an IP address is clear and convincing evidence of origin is absolute > bonkers. An IP address is evidence of *routing*. Must y

Re: On message signing and Enigmail...

2012-02-01 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 2/1/12 4:29 PM, Christopher J. Walters wrote: > However, I disagree with your statement that there is no way to > check: one can check the headers of each message to see from where > they originated. Easily forged, and machines are too easy to compromise. This idea that an IP address is clea

Re: On message signing and Enigmail...

2012-02-01 Thread Christopher J. Walters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2/1/2012 03:45 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > Except that it doesn't. What's to prevent me from creating a > certificate with your name and email address and making posts in your > name, with a signature from a certificate that claims to be yours?

Re: On message signing and Enigmail...

2012-02-01 Thread gnupg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/02/12 21:12, Doug Barton wrote: >>> Nothing -- and that signature is every bit as credible as the >>> one that's from your own certificate. You might say, "but >>> that certificate's a fraud, my certificate's real!", but the >>> Christopher Wal

Re: On message signing and Enigmail...

2012-02-01 Thread Jerry
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:45:05 -0500 Robert J. Hansen articulated: > Except that it doesn't. What's to prevent me from creating a > certificate with your name and email address and making posts in your > name, with a signature from a certificate that claims to be yours? > > Nothing -- and that sig

Re: On message signing and Enigmail...

2012-02-01 Thread Doug Barton
On 02/01/2012 13:05, gn...@lists.grepular.com wrote: > On 01/02/12 20:45, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > >>> On the issue of signing: I do sign my messages, and have >>> uploaded my public keys to key servers, so they are available to >>> check that no one has changed my message. > >> Except that it

Re: On message signing and Enigmail...

2012-02-01 Thread gnupg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/02/12 20:45, Robert J. Hansen wrote: >> On the issue of signing: I do sign my messages, and have >> uploaded my public keys to key servers, so they are available to >> check that no one has changed my message. > > Except that it doesn't. What

Re: On message signing and Enigmail...

2012-02-01 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 2/1/12 3:34 PM, Christopher J. Walters wrote: > On the issue of signing: I do sign my messages, and have uploaded my > public keys to key servers, so they are available to check that no > one has changed my message. Except that it doesn't. What's to prevent me from creating a certificate with

On message signing and Enigmail...

2012-02-01 Thread Christopher J. Walters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I thought I would start a new thread because of the thread confusion. I first want to say that I use Enigmail with Thunderbird, and check the To: and CC: lines of any replies before I send my reply to any list, to avoid people receiving unwanted pri