Re: (OT) Blocking ICMP

2015-10-08 Thread Antony Prince
On 10/08/2015 04:05 PM, Peter Lebbing wrote: ... > > That's a major part of the problem: the people who block all ICMP packets are > usually not the ones affected by the issue. They never notice, and it's other > people who get the issues when connecting to them. > >

Re: (OT) Blocking ICMP

2015-10-08 Thread Peter Lebbing
g as soon as a system tries to send a big packet. That's a major part of the problem: the people who block all ICMP packets are usually not the ones affected by the issue. They never notice, and it's other people who get the issues when connecting to them. Just blocking echo-request (or

Re: (OT) Blocking ICMP

2015-10-08 Thread Antony Prince
On 10/08/2015 03:45 PM, Peter Lebbing wrote: > I hope you mean specifically dropping all ICMP echo-request packets, not all > I could've been more specific, but yes. ICMPv4 echo requests. AFAIK anyway. I haven't had a single issue with any of the traffic I route through it, so I&

(OT) Blocking ICMP (was: Re: ?: keys.gnupg.net: Host not found)

2015-10-08 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 08/10/15 21:26, Antony Prince wrote: > I host a server in this pool and it is set to drop all IPv4 ICMP packets I hope you mean specifically dropping all ICMP echo-request packets, not all ICMP packets. Because some ICMP packets are *essential* for proper functioning of your inter

Re: (OT) Re: ICMP

2014-08-16 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 15/08/14 22:33, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > You'll notice I'm not disagreeing with you on anything. :) Hehe :). I do regret the swearing in the last paragraph though. That wasn't necessary. My apologies to anyone who didn't appreciate that. Peter. -- I use the GNU Privacy Guard (GnuPG) in c

Re: ICMP

2014-08-15 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 12:54:29PM -0400, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > >Blocking ICMP is not a network misconfiguration at all. > > Whether it's a misconfiguration depends entirely on whether the > administrator intends this behavior. I meant "Blocking ICMP" is a delib

Re: ICMP

2014-08-15 Thread Robert J. Hansen
I agree with everything Doug wrote except this. I may be insisting on usual semantics... Yow, did I actually write that? Time to go drink coffee directly from the pot. s/usual/unusual/ ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lis

Re: (OT) Re: ICMP

2014-08-15 Thread Robert J. Hansen
Okay. So an administrator willingly creates a PMTU blackhole?... You'll notice I'm not disagreeing with you on anything. :) ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users

(OT) Re: ICMP

2014-08-15 Thread Peter Lebbing
Hard to debug if you don't know about PMTU blackholes! The iptables man page calls it this (TCP MSS clamping target): > This target is used to overcome criminally braindead ISPs or > servers which block "ICMP Fragmentation Needed" or "ICMPv6 Packet > Too Big"

Re: ICMP

2014-08-15 Thread Robert J. Hansen
Blocking all ICMP has always been a misconfiguration. I agree with everything Doug wrote except this. I may be insisting on usual semantics for "misconfiguration," though. I am generally of the opinion that when someone deliberately configures something in a foolish way, well

Re: ICMP (was: Re: keys.gnupg.net - Refresh all public keys never completes in) Enigmail, some servers down?

2014-08-15 Thread Doug Barton
On Aug 15, 2014, at 8:46 AM, Aaron Toponce wrote: > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 05:13:08PM +0100, OmegaPhil wrote: >> Fair point, although that would be a network misconfiguration as >> ping/ICMP is required for network troubleshooting, packet fragmentation >> stuff etc (for

Re: ICMP

2014-08-15 Thread Robert J. Hansen
Blocking ICMP is not a network misconfiguration at all. Whether it's a misconfiguration depends entirely on whether the administrator intends this behavior. It *is*, however, non-RFC-compliant. Not that I think this matters much. ___ Gnupg-

ICMP (was: Re: keys.gnupg.net - Refresh all public keys never completes in) Enigmail, some servers down?

2014-08-15 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 05:13:08PM +0100, OmegaPhil wrote: > Fair point, although that would be a network misconfiguration as > ping/ICMP is required for network troubleshooting, packet fragmentation > stuff etc (for reference I'm testing from a dedicated line that I control). Bl