Re: Certification-only key

2017-06-06 Thread Andrew Gallagher
On 2017/06/06 14:38, Peter Lebbing wrote: > However, if somebody has used a timestamping service to prove the > signature was in fact really issued before the key expired, you'll have > to claim that you had already disclosed the secret key back then. Even > though you didn't. So you can't prove it

Re: Certification-only key

2017-06-06 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 06/06/17 15:14, Andrew Gallagher wrote: > To protect against this, one would use a timestamping service to sign > the secret key publication, thereby proving the publication was earlier > than the forgery. I think you're going backwards about this. This is how I understand it: Until the key i

Re: Certification-only key

2017-06-06 Thread Andrew Gallagher
On 2017/06/02 18:25, Peter Lebbing wrote: > I did later realize that if somebody used a timestamping service to > timestamp a document you signed, you would have to argue that you > already published your secret key before that time. To protect against this, one would use a timestamping service to

Re: Certification-only key

2017-06-02 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 02/06/17 17:03, Andrew Gallagher wrote: > intentionally publishing secret material - even for > revoked keys - runs the risk of your correspondents getting scammed > during the refresh interval. Note that this related to an *expired* subkey. If people wouldn't update their keyrings (which they

Re: Certification-only key

2017-06-02 Thread Andrew Gallagher
On 2017/06/02 14:06, Peter Lebbing wrote: > On 02/06/17 14:42, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: >> However, if I publish the secret signing subkey after it expires, >> the cryptographic certainty is gone. > > Heh, that's an interesting take on it. Thanks for sharing it. The main motivation for publishin

Re: Certification-only key

2017-06-02 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 02/06/17 14:42, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > However, if I publish the secret signing subkey after it expires, > the cryptographic certainty is gone. Heh, that's an interesting take on it. Thanks for sharing it. Peter. -- I use the GNU Privacy Guard (GnuPG) in combination with Enigmail. You c

Re: Certification-only key

2017-06-02 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 05:42:10PM +0200, Peter Lebbing wrote: > On 31/05/17 14:52, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: >> Right to be forgotten. The signatures I made a long time ago were made >> by a different person, although there is a continuity between the >> two. > Talking about not forgetting, you

Re: Certification-only key

2017-05-31 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 31/05/17 14:52, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > Right to be forgotten. The signatures I made a long time ago were made > by a different person, although there is a continuity between the > two. Talking about not forgetting, you answered after seven years?! :-D I don't think expiring a signing subk

Re: Certification-only key

2017-05-31 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 10:45:02AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > On 10/4/2010 8:22 AM, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: >> Also, when my signature subkey expires, it would (I guess) silently >> start using the primary. Which makes me_very_ happy I chose to make >> my primary certification-only, because si

Is this a bug? Primary certification-only key will not "keytocard"

2013-06-08 Thread Peter Lebbing
Hello Werner and list, I could reproduce the problem the user "Mustrum" had with moving his certification-only primary key to a smartcard. If you have a primary key with sign and certify abilities, you can "keytocard" it to the Signature slot of an OpenPGP card, and it will issue certifications ju

Re: Certification-only key

2010-10-04 Thread Doug Barton
On 10/4/2010 8:22 AM, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: Also, when my signature subkey expires, it would (I guess) silently start using the primary. Which makes me_very_ happy I chose to make my primary certification-only, because signatures started to fail instead, which gave me notice and allowed me t

Re: Certification-only key

2010-10-04 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 01:03:00AM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 04:46:46PM -0400, David Shaw wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 09:35:50PM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: >>> You could argue I could have this without marking the key as >>> certificate-only, by never i

Re: Certification-only key

2005-09-06 Thread David Shaw
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 01:03:00AM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > >> I would obviously have at least one data-signing subkey. I presume > >> these people would take a signature from such as subkey. Or > >> decryption of a nonce they sent me encrypted to an encryption > >> subkey. > > > They m

Re: Certification-only key

2005-09-05 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 04:46:46PM -0400, David Shaw wrote: > On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 09:35:50PM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 01:46:07PM -0400, David Shaw wrote: >>> It's not necessarily a good idea though: some people before agreeing >>> to sign a key will ask for a

Re: Certification-only key

2005-09-05 Thread David Shaw
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 09:35:50PM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 01:46:07PM -0400, David Shaw wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 04:41:40PM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > > >> I tried to generate an RSAv4 certification-only key with GnuPG, but

Re: Certification-only key

2005-09-05 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 01:46:07PM -0400, David Shaw wrote: > On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 04:41:40PM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: >> I tried to generate an RSAv4 certification-only key with GnuPG, but >> failed, even in "expert mode". >> Is this impossible with Gnu

Re: Certification-only key

2005-09-05 Thread David Shaw
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 04:41:40PM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > Hi, > > I tried to generate an RSAv4 certification-only key with GnuPG, but > failed, even in "expert mode". > > What I mean is a primary key that can be used to attach a subkey to > it, or

Certification-only key

2005-09-05 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
Hi, I tried to generate an RSAv4 certification-only key with GnuPG, but failed, even in "expert mode". What I mean is a primary key that can be used to attach a subkey to it, or _maybe_ also to sign UserIDs of other keys (for the Web of Trust). But not for data signatures. As I unde