Re: A Quick Supplement

2017-07-19 Thread Werner Koch
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 22:49, r...@sixdemonbag.org said: > random_seed is internal data belonging to the PRNG. That is right. However we always add at least 128 bit of fresh random which would be enough - at least on all systems with /dev/random or on Windows. It is just that we are ultra-conserva

Re: A Quick Supplement

2017-07-18 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> Ah, you got me ;-) So you are a developer? In my day job I'm a developer, among other things. However, due to my taking research funding from the U.S. government in the past, I do not contribute code to either GnuPG or Enigmail. I find other, non-code, ways to help the GnuPG and Enigmail teams

Re: A Quick Supplement

2017-07-18 Thread Daniel Villarreal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/18/17 08:36, Robert J. Hansen wrote: >> ... shouldn't the focus of GnuPG be on security? > > This *is* a security issue. Since you put it that way, I agree. > Some ... GnuPG use a ... "random_seed"... must not be backed up or > shared ...

Re: A Quick Supplement

2017-07-18 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> Sorry if I'm asking dumb questions Not a dumb question. > what would be wrong with sync'ing the whole gnupg directory (or the > whole user profile / home directory) with rsync/duplicity/whatever ? There are a number of lockfiles, sockets, etc., that live in the ~/.gnupg directory which shouldn

Re: A Quick Supplement

2017-07-18 Thread Andreas Heinlein
Am 18.07.2017 um 15:36 schrieb Robert J. Hansen: > >> While it would be nice if it were easier to be able to back up easily >> as you're suggesting, shouldn't the focus of GnuPG be on security? > This *is* a security issue. > > Some versions of GnuPG use a file called "random_seed", for instance. >

Re: A Quick Supplement

2017-07-18 Thread NdK
Il 18/07/2017 14:23, Daniel Villarreal ha scritto: > Have you ever asked Werner about what he thinks about "ease" of > backing up?" Security = confidentiality + integrity + availability If you're not considering availability, you only can have partial security. BYtE, Diego

Re: A Quick Supplement

2017-07-18 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> Have you ever asked Werner about what he thinks about "ease" of > backing up?" I have made these observations before, yes. > While it would be nice if it were easier to be able to back up easily > as you're suggesting, shouldn't the focus of GnuPG be on security? This *is* a security issue. S

Re: A Quick Supplement

2017-07-18 Thread Daniel Villarreal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/17/17 08:54, Robert J. Hansen wrote: >> I'm not sure if Rob's routine actually backs up local >> signatures... I couldn't see anything explicit about it with a >> quick glance at the code. That's fine if you don't use local >> signatures at

Re: A Quick Supplement

2017-07-17 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> Please note that while I greatly appreciate that Mr. Hansen wrote a > program to handle this, I still like having the option of doing things > manually. At risk of sounding arch and caustic -- which I'm not; it's just that reality is going to sound arch and caustic -- go for it: just remember t

Re: A Quick Supplement

2017-07-17 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> I'm not sure if Rob's routine actually backs up local signatures... > I couldn't see anything explicit about it with a quick glance at the > code. That's fine if you don't use local signatures at all. The step-by-step process I posted last year didn't, because I don't use them in my own local po

Re: A Quick Supplement

2017-07-17 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 17/07/17 01:50, Daniel Villarreal wrote: > Are you recommending... > [...] > instead of Yes, instead of, not in addition to. The export-local-sigs will add the local sigs, the other non-local sigs will still be there as well. > And this all functions with gpg2 in place of gpg ? Yes, just use

Re: A Quick Supplement

2017-07-16 Thread Daniel Villarreal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/14/17 13:56, Peter Lebbing wrote: > There's an option missing that could cause data loss in its > absence: > > $ gpg --armor --export > pub.asc > > I'd make that: > > $ gpg --armor --export-options export-local-sigs --export >pub.asc > > I

A Quick Supplement

2017-07-14 Thread Peter Lebbing
There's an option missing that could cause data loss in its absence: $ gpg --armor --export > pub.asc I'd make that: $ gpg --armor --export-options export-local-sigs --export >pub.asc If you have made any signatures that are not exportable (so lsign and friends), they would not be exported othe