Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-06 Thread Stefan Claas
Am Mon, 6 May 2019 18:55:50 +0100 schrieb Mark Rousell : > (a) It's not a crime to run a proxy in the UK or EU[1]. It's just that > there are metadata logging and log-retention requirements if you do > so. (Once again, I apologise because I've lost my notes on all the EU > and UK legislation that

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-06 Thread Mark Rousell
On 06/05/2019 17:07, Stefan Claas wrote: > Thanks for pointing that out! O.k. I do not want to get to off-topic > here but it interests me what would happen if I use a US based server > and a US domain with whois guard? Would ProtonMail really hunt down > a proxy server operator, or let's say other

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-06 Thread Mark Rousell
On 06/05/2019 16:27, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 11:17 AM Mark Rousell wrote: >> Check your local laws first. I am pretty sure that doing that (specifically >> the no logs bit) in the UK would now be a criminal offence. ;-) This is the >> same as many other EU countries due

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-06 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 06/05/2019 16:39, Stefan Claas wrote: > Maybe I should set-up squid on a VPS and let people register from there, > while keeping no log files. :-D The only purpose of that would be to specifically subvert the intentions and processes of ProtonMail. They have designed a system which chooses poli

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-06 Thread Stefan Claas
Am Mon, 6 May 2019 06:52:10 +0200 schrieb Stefan Claas : > Am Sun, 5 May 2019 17:16:12 -0700 > schrieb Mirimir : > > > Well of course that's not anonymous! > > > > So what you do, if you want ~anonymity, is to use their Tor onion > > site. That doesn't ask for anything beyond an email address.

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-06 Thread Stefan Claas
Am Mon, 6 May 2019 16:17:01 +0100 schrieb Mark Rousell : > On 06/05/2019 15:39, Stefan Claas wrote: > > Maybe I should set-up squid on a VPS and let people register from > > there, while keeping no log files. :-D > > Check your local laws first. I am pretty sure that doing that > (specifically

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-06 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 11:17 AM Mark Rousell wrote: > > On 06/05/2019 15:39, Stefan Claas wrote: > > Maybe I should set-up squid on a VPS and let people register from there, > while keeping no log files. :-D > > > Check your local laws first. I am pretty sure that doing that (specifically > the n

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-06 Thread Mark Rousell
On 06/05/2019 15:39, Stefan Claas wrote: > Maybe I should set-up squid on a VPS and let people register from there, > while keeping no log files. :-D Check your local laws first. I am pretty sure that doing that (specifically the no logs bit) in the UK would now be a criminal offence. ;-) This is

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-06 Thread Stefan Claas
Am Mon, 6 May 2019 07:26:50 +0200 schrieb Matthias Apitz : > Well, I'm asking myself: What has all this thread to do with GnuPG? I think it is a good idea to post GnuPG related things here on the ML when it comes also to things or services etc. using the Openpgp protocol, so that users are aware

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-06 Thread Stefan Claas
Am Mon, 6 May 2019 06:17:42 -0400 schrieb Mauricio Tavares : > Another option is to buy a burner phone and SIM paying cash. > I've seen both available in stores and supermarkets and street stands > in at least 3 countries. While I am not using regular proxy servers, I figured out this morn

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-06 Thread Stefan Claas
Am Mon, 6 May 2019 08:53:14 -0400 schrieb Jeff Allen : > People who don't trust ProtonMail shouldn't use it. Absolutely! But I think it does not hurt to post such things to educate PGP users how different services or software applications etc. handle such privacy related things, especially whe

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-06 Thread Mark Rousell
On 06/05/2019 10:19, Peter Lebbing wrote: > Hello Stephan, > > Something completely different. > > What is that link with the binary data in your OP? > > I did not click it because I don't know what binary data I'd be handing > to that site. But I see this text on the front page of that site: > I

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-06 Thread Mark Rousell
On 06/05/2019 12:21, Andrew Luke Nesbit wrote: > [I am resending from my list-subscribed email address.] > > On 06/05/2019 11:17, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > >> Another option is to buy a burner phone and SIM paying cash. >> I've seen both available in stores and supermarkets and street stands

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-06 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 06/05/2019 14:53, Jeff Allen wrote: > It would be more trivial not to hash the number and say you did. I think it's a worthwhile thing to point out that they state "because hash functions are one-way functions, it is impossible to derive your phone number [...]" without reservations, but that t

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-06 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On 07:21, Mon, May 6, 2019 Andrew Luke Nesbit > [I am resending from my list-subscribed email address.] > > On 06/05/2019 11:17, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > > > Another option is to buy a burner phone and SIM paying cash. > > I've seen both available in stores and supermarkets and street stand

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-06 Thread Jeff Allen
On 5/5/19 4:20 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > Don't you think that brute-forcing a hash of a phone number would be > trivial? > It would be more trivial not to hash the number and say you did. ProtonMail claims they hash the number and store it unlinked to your account. Their stated objective is t

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-06 Thread Andrew Luke Nesbit
[I am resending from my list-subscribed email address.] On 06/05/2019 11:17, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > Another option is to buy a burner phone and SIM paying cash. > I've seen both available in stores and supermarkets and street stands > in at least 3 countries. In which countries is this

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-06 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 1:08 AM Mirimir wrote: > > On 05/05/2019 09:52 PM, Stefan Claas wrote: > > Am Sun, 5 May 2019 17:16:12 -0700 > > schrieb Mirimir : > > > >> Well of course that's not anonymous! > >> > >> So what you do, if you want ~anonymity, is to use their Tor onion > >> site. That doesn'

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-06 Thread Peter Lebbing
Hello Stephan, Something completely different. What is that link with the binary data in your OP? I did not click it because I don't know what binary data I'd be handing to that site. But I see this text on the front page of that site: > You can also earn FREE TELE TOKENS from our bounty or air