Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-05 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día lunes, mayo 06, 2019 a las 07:15:06a. m. +0200, Stefan Claas escribió: > > > https://protonmail.com/ > > > > > > > I suppose like anything else it all comes down to whether you believe > > them or not. I do. > > [snip] > > Well, I just asked myself ... > > What is the purpose behind

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-05 Thread Oscar Carlsson via Gnupg-users
On Sun, 05 May 2019 22:20:58 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 2019-05-05 at 14:32 -0400, Jeff Allen wrote: > Don't you think that brute-forcing a hash of a phone number would be > trivial? > > -- > Best regards, > Michał Górny > > > > ___ > Gnupg-use

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-05 Thread Stefan Claas
Am Sun, 5 May 2019 22:07:57 -0700 schrieb Mirimir : > Of course not. But you can lease a SIM from https://speedyverify.com/, > and pay in mixed Bitcoin, all via Tor. They use real SIMs, hosted in > the Philippines. Thanks a lot for this valuable privacy tip, much appreciated! Regards Stefan __

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-05 Thread Stefan Claas
Am Sun, 5 May 2019 14:32:20 -0400 schrieb Jeff Allen : > On 5/5/19 1:36 PM, Stefan Claas wrote: > > On Sun, 5 May 2019 11:22:56 -0400 > > Tony Lane wrote: > > > >> Isn't it obvious? > > > > I don't think so! Users new to privacy related > > services may think when visiting the ProtonMail >

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-05 Thread Mirimir
On 05/05/2019 09:52 PM, Stefan Claas wrote: > Am Sun, 5 May 2019 17:16:12 -0700 > schrieb Mirimir : > >> Well of course that's not anonymous! >> >> So what you do, if you want ~anonymity, is to use their Tor onion >> site. That doesn't ask for anything beyond an email address. > > > Assuming tha

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-05 Thread Stefan Claas
Am Sun, 5 May 2019 17:16:12 -0700 schrieb Mirimir : > Well of course that's not anonymous! > > So what you do, if you want ~anonymity, is to use their Tor onion > site. That doesn't ask for anything beyond an email address. Assuming that this is their real .onion address, I just tried that. h

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-05 Thread Mirimir
On 05/05/2019 03:12 AM, Stefan Claas wrote: > Hi all, > > appologies for posting this, but I think it could > be of interest for GnuPG users, because ProtoMail > uses the OpenPGP protocol too. > > Some of you may have signed up with ProtonMail and > enjoy the service, due to it's ease of use and

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-05 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 2019-05-05 at 14:32 -0400, Jeff Allen wrote: > On 5/5/19 1:36 PM, Stefan Claas wrote: > > On Sun, 5 May 2019 11:22:56 -0400 > > Tony Lane wrote: > > > > > Isn't it obvious? > > > > I don't think so! Users new to privacy related > > services may think when visiting the ProtonMail > > site

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-05 Thread Jeff Allen
On 5/5/19 1:36 PM, Stefan Claas wrote: > On Sun, 5 May 2019 11:22:56 -0400 > Tony Lane wrote: > >> Isn't it obvious? > > I don't think so! Users new to privacy related > services may think when visiting the ProtonMail > site that they are anonymous, when seeing their > main page: > > https://pr

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-05 Thread Stefan Claas
On Sun, 5 May 2019 11:22:56 -0400 Tony Lane wrote: > Isn't it obvious? I don't think so! Users new to privacy related services may think when visiting the ProtonMail site that they are anonymous, when seeing their main page: https://protonmail.com/ Regards Stefan _

Re: ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-05 Thread Tony Lane
Isn't it obvious? If ProtonMail is forcing you to sign up and use an SMS registered to your cellphone then clearly it's in their interest to collect cellphone numbers. They're probably selling this information just like facebook and so many other data-mining corporations. After all, they have to

ProtonMail and Anonymity

2019-05-05 Thread Stefan Claas
Hi all, appologies for posting this, but I think it could be of interest for GnuPG users, because ProtoMail uses the OpenPGP protocol too. Some of you may have signed up with ProtonMail and enjoy the service, due to it's ease of use and they think they are anonymous, when using this service. At