Re: IT Department having the secure key.

2009-07-27 Thread Faramir
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 arcintl escribió: ... > First: if the user creates a key and then leaves the company. assuming > he/she didnt tell anyone the pass phrase and was the only key used, are > those files locked for ever? Right, without access to the secret key, it is

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2009-07-27 Thread Richard Hamilton
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Re: Encryption keys in the OpenPGP spec

2009-07-27 Thread David Shaw
On Jul 27, 2009, at 11:15 AM, James P. Howard, II wrote: On Sun Jul 26 2009 23:09:18 GMT-0400 (EST) , David Shaw wrote: Because it is difficult (or nearly impossible) to determine the difference from the perspective of GnuPG. That is, I as a person know what I'm encrypting and what I plan on

Re: Encryption keys in the OpenPGP spec

2009-07-27 Thread James P. Howard, II
On Sun Jul 26 2009 23:09:18 GMT-0400 (EST) , David Shaw wrote: > Because it is difficult (or nearly impossible) to determine the > difference from the perspective of GnuPG. That is, I as a person > know what I'm encrypting and what I plan on doing with it, but GnuPG > just sees bits. As a gene

Re: IT Department having the secure key.

2009-07-27 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 07/27/2009 09:41 AM, Ingo Krabbe wrote: > I mean if you encrypt a file f.txt to f.txt.gpg with 10 recipients, you will > have a f.txt.gpg that contains f.txt 10 times encrypted in 10 different ways. > Maybe I'm wrong about this point, but I can't think about an encryption > strategy > with mixe

Re: IT Department having the secure key.

2009-07-27 Thread David Shaw
Somehow this thread mutated into being on both gnupg-devel and gnupg- users. I'm only replying to gnupg-users. Let's try to keep it on one list. On Jul 27, 2009, at 9:41 AM, Ingo Krabbe wrote: You actually can encrypt files to more than one OpenPGP key, so that anyone holding any of the re

Re: IT Department having the secure key.

2009-07-27 Thread David Shaw
On Jul 27, 2009, at 8:29 AM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: And: You can only encrypt the files for one key. So only one user will have access to the files (owns the files), as long as you don't share the keys. For example you can introduce company wide keys or deparmtement keys and distribut

Re: IT Department having the secure key.

2009-07-27 Thread David Shaw
On Jul 27, 2009, at 5:25 AM, arcintl wrote: i wish to setup GNUpg for my work (i am the IT Administrator) but i have a few questions. First: if the user creates a key and then leaves the company. assuming he/she didnt tell anyone the pass phrase and was the only key used, are those files l

Re: IT Department having the secure key.

2009-07-27 Thread Ingo Krabbe
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 08:29:10AM -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > Hi Ingo-- > > This is a well-thought-out response, but there are some nagging, > nit-picky details that i'm not sure are what you meant: > > On 07/27/2009 06:33 AM, Ingo Krabbe wrote: > > 3. GnuPG is a distributed system in co

RE: IT Department having the secure key.

2009-07-27 Thread Jim Hendrick
Although it is controversial, look into key escrow. One possibility is to allow (require via policy?) users to encrypt data to a single central escrow key (that you store offline) in addition to any other keys they use. Then if recovery is required, the escrow key can be used to decrypt the data.

Re: IT Department having the secure key.

2009-07-27 Thread Robert J. Hansen
One possibility is to allow (require via policy?) users to encrypt data to a single central escrow key (that you store offline) in addition to any other keys they use. Then if recovery is required, the escrow key can be used to decrypt the data. This sounds quite a bit like the Additional

Re: IT Department having the secure key.

2009-07-27 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
Hi Ingo-- This is a well-thought-out response, but there are some nagging, nit-picky details that i'm not sure are what you meant: On 07/27/2009 06:33 AM, Ingo Krabbe wrote: > 3. GnuPG is a distributed system in contrast to SSL Ciphers, that are > assymmetric as well but need a centralized keyser

Re: IT Department having the secure key.

2009-07-27 Thread Ingo Krabbe
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 02:25:05AM -0700, arcintl wrote: > > i wish to setup GNUpg for my work (i am the IT Administrator) but i have a > few questions. good idea > > First: if the user creates a key and then leaves the company. assuming > he/she didnt tell anyone the pass phrase and was the on

IT Department having the secure key.

2009-07-27 Thread arcintl
i wish to setup GNUpg for my work (i am the IT Administrator) but i have a few questions. First: if the user creates a key and then leaves the company. assuming he/she didnt tell anyone the pass phrase and was the only key used, are those files locked for ever? if this is so my idea was the IT d