Re: [GNC] Another "multi-account" logical issue - any advice on how to register this?

2024-10-02 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Hi David. Thanks for your feedback - along with all other replies and posts in this thread! :-) I will think about whether I want to consider the shipping expense as part of the value of the goods I bought or not. I understand the difference and keeping shipping costs separated from the goods val

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-02 Thread David Warren
Chris's actual question was important to me. Does the code actually do something different for different 'types' of assets/liabilities? If so, what? Given the answer, is there a way to turn off all of that Increase/Decrease stuff and have gnucash simply say Debit/Credit in all headings instead, f

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-02 Thread Ross Reedstrom
Yup! Edit -> Preferences -> Accounts -> Use formal accounting labels (Which I found by tracing the code from the table of debit strings upwards, and found a test against GNC_PREF_ACCOUNTING_LABELS) Ross On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 12:26 PM David Warren wrote: > Chris's actual question was importan

[GNC] Finance::Quote failed to initialize

2024-10-02 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Hi all. On MacOS Sonoma 14.6.1 I've just followed the instructions from the GnuCash documentation to install the Finance::Quote module. After finishing without errors, I tried to use it but it won't initialize - see here: me@MacBook-Pro ~ % /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/M

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-02 Thread David Cousens
Edit->Preferences->Accounts->Labels  make sure "Use formal accounting labels" is checked. On Wed, 2024-10-02 at 13:25 -0400, David Warren wrote: > Chris's actual question was important to me. > > Does the code actually do something different for different 'types' > of > assets/liabilities?  If so

Re: [GNC] Another "multi-account" logical issue - any advice on how to register this?

2024-10-02 Thread David Cousens
Flavio, My comment is purely from the perspective of a non-buiness activity and Michael's Chris and Murugan's comments re shipping are definitely valid and would apply particularly where there is any intention to resell items purchased for profit and can be applied even in the private case with re

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-02 Thread David Warren
Thanks Ross & David C On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 3:43 PM David Cousens wrote: > Edit->Preferences->Accounts->Labels make sure "Use formal accounting > labels" is checked. > > On Wed, 2024-10-02 at 13:25 -0400, David Warren wrote: > > Chris's actual question was important to me. > > Does the code ac

Re: [GNC] Finance::Quote failed to initialize

2024-10-02 Thread John Ralls
Flavio, What did you actually do? Do you by any chance have a perl installed that isn’t from Apple, perhaps HomeBrew or MacPorts? Is your MBP an Intel or Apple Silicon one and did you install the GnuCash that matches the architecture? Regards, John Ralls > On Oct 2, 2024, at 12:03, Boniforti

Re: [GNC] Another "multi-account" logical issue - any advice on how to register this?

2024-10-02 Thread Bruce Griffis
Or in the case of reselling (which really is what we are doing when buying an item and eventually selling it) - I bought some diecast cars off an online seller. The price of each unit came in where I could make a profit selling it. However, each item had taxes, shipping and handling. And in resell

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-02 Thread Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
Thanks for this, Ross. I asked a similar question in July, but your look into the code gave a much better answer than I got. It would be very nice if this information can be added to section 2.8.2 of the Tutorial and Concepts manual. Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA https://BrownMath.com On 2024-10

Re: [GNC] Another "multi-account" logical issue - any advice on how to register this?

2024-10-02 Thread Patrick James via gnucash-user
> On 10/02/2024 8:26 AM PDT Bruce Griffis wrote: > If I need to pay 24 dollars just to get a 12 dollar item, it had better > have a value of 24 dollars just to sit on a shelf and look at it. Put differently, it's not a 12 dollar item. It's a 24 dollar item. So you are correct, the item needs t

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-02 Thread Patrick James via gnucash-user
As the GnuCash help page suggests, not all assets are equal, in that there exists different levels of asset liquidity. One use of this is the presentation of assets on the balance sheet. The greater the liquidity of an asset, the closer to to top the asset is listed. Personally in GnuCash I ass

Re: [GNC] Another "multi-account" logical issue - any advice on how to register this?

2024-10-02 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Thanks. I will continue looking it at this way. F. Chris Miller schrieb am Mi., 2. Okt. 2024, 16:28: > Hi Flavio, > > > I will think about whether I want to consider the shipping expense as > part > > of the value of the goods I bought or not. I understand the difference > and > > keeping shippi

Re: [GNC] Another "multi-account" logical issue - any advice on how to register this?

2024-10-02 Thread Murugan Mariappan
Inbound shipping costs (freight-in): If the shipping charges are for transporting raw materials or inventory to your business (i.e., costs incurred to bring goods to your warehouse or manufacturing facility), these are typically included in COGS. These costs are part of what it takes to get the

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-02 Thread Brook Milligan via gnucash-user
Is it really the case that the _only_ impact of account type is to change the headings in the GUI? Cheers, Brook > On Oct 2, 2024, at 9:29 AM, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) > wrote: > > Thanks for this, Ross. I asked a similar question in July, but your look > into the code gave a much better an

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-02 Thread R Losey
Perhaps I'm being overly dense here... Cash, Bank Accounts, etc are sub-elements of Assets. So certainly, GnuCash treats assets the same - an asset is an asset. But once you divide assets up - in any way - you are treating them as different things... therefore, "Is 'Cash on Hand' an asset?" - Ye

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-02 Thread Ross Reedstrom
Brook Milligan wrote: > Is it really the case that the _only_ impact of account type is to change > the headings in the GUI? > Wll, not completely. The actual question was "how does GnuCash treat accounts (like Cash, Bank, or Credit) differently than the base accounting type account (Asset

Re: [GNC] Another "multi-account" logical issue - any advice on how to register this?

2024-10-02 Thread R Losey
By the way, "multi-account transactions" would be better named "split transactions"; I kept thinking you were writing about accessing GnuCash from multiple user accounts. Anyway, it's an interesting concept... I don't know that I keep value of what things are "worth" to me -- I have some priceless

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-02 Thread Ross Reedstrom
The question was not a theoretical one, it was a practical one. I agree, theoretically, you would expect GC to treat all AssetClass accounts the same. In fact, in object-oriented coding, it's best practice to have a parent class that you'd derive the child classes from, so that association is enfor

Re: [GNC] Another "multi-account" logical issue - any advice on how to register this?

2024-10-02 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
However, I always considered shipping costs as part of the goods value. I thought "I paid 220 for this guitar, even though 20 are for shipping, so to me it's worth 220" (I know this is wrong, because shipping doesn't add value to the goods). "Shipping cost" has added to the value of goods for tho

Re: [GNC] Another "multi-account" logical issue - any advice on how to register this?

2024-10-02 Thread Chris Miller via gnucash-user
Hi Flavio, > I will think about whether I want to consider the shipping expense as part > of the value of the goods I bought or not. I understand the difference and > keeping shipping costs separated from the goods value looks correct to me. > However, I always considered shipping costs as part of

Re: [GNC] Finance::Quote failed to initialize

2024-10-02 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Hi John. I installed GnuCash with HomeBrew. I did not manually install Perl - it was already there: me@MacBook-Pro ~ % perl -v This is perl 5, version 34, subversion 1 (v5.34.1) built for darwin-thread-multi-2level (with 2 registered patches, see perl -V for more detail) Copyright 1987-2022,