Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

Thank you. That is helpful! -P. On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 1:47 AM Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > Peter, > > I think the problem stems from your choice of report options. > > Namely, by default, 'Account Name' under the Display tab is *not* > selected, while the 'othe

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

Peter, I think the problem stems from your choice of report options. Namely, by default, 'Account Name' under the Display tab is *not* selected, while the 'other account' is. This is because by default the Sort options are: Primary: account Secondary: register order So by default, the trans

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

On 2022-08-16 15:23, David Cousens wrote: > It may help if you can list the options you have selected in each tab of the > Report Options dialogue to see if we can define the conditions that are > producing your result. Not just those, but also Edit » Preferences » Accounts » Reverse Balanced Acc

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

I think at last I see what you all are saying. When I have not displayed account totals, the only account shown on a debit or credit line is the *counterpart* of the current leg of the transaction; so the line in the last of my four attachments that says "Checking Account" and lists $100 as a Cred

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

Sorry, while I did send screenshots on 8/2, my reply on 8/3 contains the annotated versions. Regards, Adrien On 8/16/22 8:25 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: I sent a reply on 8/2 with annotated screenshots showing the issue using default options save for the account selection.

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

Peter, You are reading the report incorrectly. I sent a reply on 8/2 with annotated screenshots showing the issue using default options save for the account selection. John replied this afternoon saying the same thing using significantly less words than I did on 8/2. The reports are all co

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

Hi, David, Please see my last posting. On MacOS Catalina, the results appear correct on the Transaction Report, but not on Big Sur. -P. On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 6:24 PM David Cousens wrote: > Peter, > > I have done the same thing you did with a brand new account setup and a > single > transact

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

Nope, PEBKAC. Both reports are correct and the same. It's just that in the BigSur one you turned off both of the sorting options so that only the transfer to/from account is visible and then misread the report to mean that that was the account being credited or debited. Regards, John Ralls >

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

Hi, here is THE ANSWER. It is a Guncash bug. The previous report was obtained on MacOS 11.6.8 (Big Sur). This gave the credits and debits mislabeled in the transaction report. I have access to another mac running 10.16.2 (Catalina). Running the SAME version of Gnucash (4.11) on the SAME dataset t

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

As an experiment, I started a band new Gnucash file for test purposes. I entered a single transaction. I am attaching a view of the register, a Transaction report and a Balance sheet. You can see that the same thing is happening that happened before: - Register view shows that the checking acc

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

Hi, David, On the balance sheet, everything is correct; the sums reflecting the balances of the various real accounts are correct and in agreement with the bank statements; in other words, they reconcile. I also demonstrated this in the very first screen shot I sent when I started the case, the sh

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

On Wed, 2022-08-03 at 20:28 -0400, Peter S. Shenkin wrote: > Adrian, > > I do have full account names turned on. I forget where I did that. I have > no customized sort that affects the order of accounts within a transaction > in either register view nor in the transaction report. (I prefer to sort

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

Adrian, I do have full account names turned on. I forget where I did that. I have no customized sort that affects the order of accounts within a transaction in either register view nor in the transaction report. (I prefer to sort the transactions by date in the transaction report, but that's just

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

I took another look at your initial report screenshot. It is correct and *not* reversed. There are some parts of it missing, but you can see them in my screenshot version. The main difference otherwise in our two reports is that you've listed the Donations transaction first and the Checking

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

Yep. For summary: If you want to change options, you have to click Options, make your change, then click Apply or OK. (Apply leaves the Options window open for further fiddling, OK will close it.) If you want to keep your options set as-is, but you edit a transaction and want to see the resu

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

For the record, there's a Reload button on the toolbar that will... reload the current report. On August 2, 2022 6:56:17 AM GMT+03:00, davidcousen...@gmail.com wrote: > perhaps then rerun the Transaction Report. The >latter doesn't rerun automatically . You have to edit the report options and >t

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

Peter, Yes, I caught all of that. I'm referring to default options of the report - not GnuCash generally. If you have the report still open, close it. Now, run it again. Note, you shouldn't get anything at first except a page telling you that you need to set options first, particularly to ch

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

Hi, Adrian, My first image shows a single transaction (the "wepay to checking" transaction). But I separately pasted in the Checking balance from the previous transaction, which is not fully shown. I wanted the reader to see that indeed the transaction I did show raised the Checking balance. And I

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

I just upgraded to 4.11 (but I'm still on BigSur, though that should not matter) and ran a transaction report on one of my asset accounts and it works as expected. I'll note that your the screenshot of your Transaction report looks like you have *two* transactions with the same date, not both

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

Peter,Yes it is working correctly in Gnucash 4.11 on Linux Mint 20.3 and has always worked that way in the past. The coding for the transaction reports is in Scheme and separate from the main GnuCash code so I would not expect a change in the preferences for the register display to affect the Tra

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

That preference is merely for presentation. Yes, the manual describes how the options work. It has nothing to do with debit vs. credit but rather the account balance shown as positive or negative. Whether an account has a debit or credit balance is not changed by the preference. Regards, Adr

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

Apologies. I hadn't viewed the entry attachment. Indeed something is amiss then. I am on MacOS, so I'll see if I can duplicate it. Regards, Adrien On 8/1/22 9:18 PM, Peter S. Shenkin wrote: My entry is not backwards. In the first of my attachments you can see how I entered the Checking debit

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

Regarding my question ("Possible GC bug?"), I just reread your response and realized that you actually said that in your hands it works correctly; I had thought you said the opposite. So though it could possibly be a bug just on MacOS (unless you're also on MacOS), I rather suspect that there is s

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

Hi, David, I did try using both Increase/Decrease and Debit/Credit labeling in the register, but the transaction report is unchanged. I also saw an option in Preferences for Reversing either Credit Accounts, or Income & Expense Accounts, or None. I really have no idea what that is about, but GC s

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

Peter I do agree the Debit and Credit column headers appear to be reversed on the Transaction Report in your original post . I have just run a Transaction report (GC 4.11) on one of my bank accounts and it reports my income (payments into the account) correctly as debits and expenses (payments f

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

My entry is not backwards. In the first of my attachments you can see how I entered the Checking debit in the register and you can also see that it in fact increased the Assets...Checking Balance. Yet in the transaction report, it is reported as a Credit, which is backwards. -P. On Mon, Aug 1, 2

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

The report is correct. Your entry is backwards. Open your Checking register. Then View > Transaction Journal (now you see all splits for all transactions, nothing hidden) This particular transaction should be: dr. Checking cr. Donations That will increase *both* the amount in your checking

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

Actually on the Mac, that setting is in Gnucash > Preferences > Accounts > Label On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 7:29 PM Peter S. Shenkin wrote: > That is useful information! Thank you. I found Increase and Decrease > perfectly understandable until it didn't work. 😊 > > -P. > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 7:

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

Hi, I made up the name "transaction entry" because I didn't know what to call it. 😊 I didn't know there was such a thing as a transaction entry window. If I had the Donations account open, I would have had the same kind of problem. Per Gyle's suggestion it looks like I can switch to the good old

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

That is useful information! Thank you. I found Increase and Decrease perfectly understandable until it didn't work. 😊 -P. On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 7:28 PM Gyle McCollam wrote: > Under "Edit/Preferences/Accounts/Labels" if you check the box you will get > standard accounting labels with Debits an

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

Under "Edit/Preferences/Accounts/Labels" if you check the box you will get standard accounting labels with Debits and Credits. This may be less confusing to you than Increase and Decrease. Thank You, Gyle McCollam Gyle McCollam gmccol...@live.com e

Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

Peter The terms Increase and Decrease in the header only apply to the account whose register you have open not to the accounts which are the target of the individual split(entry) of the transaction and not to the account which is designated in the second split. It would appear that you have the re