Re: [GNC] stock spinoff and lots

2024-09-30 Thread Michael Matz
Michael, It was a GnuCash question about why a closed lot didn't result in GnuCash creating a capital gain transaction. It was not a question about if I owed capital gain taxes. What I missed was that the lot was closed with no capital gain so that's why GnuCash doesn't create a capital gains

Re: [GNC] stock spinoff and lots

2024-09-30 Thread Michael Matz
Geoff, On 9/29/24 10:48 PM, Geoff wrote: Hi Michael I assume that you want to retain the original lot so that you know the acquisition date associated with it when you ultimately dispose of it and realise a capital gain/loss?  Unfortunately I do not believe that the Lots functionality in Gnu

Re: [GNC] stock spinoff and lots

2024-09-30 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 9/29/2024 10:20 PM, Michael Matz wrote: Geoff, Thanks for detailed example. It looks similar to a suggestion made in 2012 that I had dismissed because it closes out the original lot, which I am hoping to avoid. Why does that not create a capital gains transaction? That is NOT a gnucas

Re: [GNC] stock spinoff and lots

2024-09-29 Thread Geoff
Hi Michael I assume that you want to retain the original lot so that you know the acquisition date associated with it when you ultimately dispose of it and realise a capital gain/loss? Unfortunately I do not believe that the Lots functionality in GnuCash is sophisticated enough to do that. A

Re: [GNC] stock spinoff and lots

2024-09-29 Thread Michael Matz
Geoff, Thanks for detailed example. It looks similar to a suggestion made in 2012 that I had dismissed because it closes out the original lot, which I am hoping to avoid. Why does that not create a capital gains transaction? https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2012-March/044159.html

Re: [GNC] stock spinoff and lots

2024-09-29 Thread Michael Matz
ompany and scrub the account again to re calculate the cap gain > > > > Saludos Cordiales > > > Murugan > -- > *From:* gnucash-user hotmail@gnucash.org> on behalf of Michael Matz > > *Sent:* 29 September 2024 18:52 > *To:* gnuca

Re: [GNC] stock spinoff and lots

2024-09-29 Thread Murugan Mariappan
-user@gnucash.org Subject: [GNC] stock spinoff and lots I've been using GnuCash for my personal finances for many years. I've not used the stock lot feature until recently and am working thought my old data and adding stock lots and capital gains transactions. How do I add a transactio

[GNC] stock spinoff and lots

2024-09-29 Thread Michael Matz
I've been using GnuCash for my personal finances for many years. I've not used the stock lot feature until recently and am working thought my old data and adding stock lots and capital gains transactions. How do I add a transaction to a lot, which changes the cost basis but not the number of s

Re: [GNC] Stock spinoff

2022-12-06 Thread David G. Pickett via gnucash-user
I usually Google search out the OCC Memo on the split or spinoff, as it does a precise analysis of the basis.  (OCC Options Clearing Corp manages stock option contracts traded on Options markets). ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org T

Re: [GNC] Stock spinoff

2022-12-04 Thread Fred Tydeman
The company says that they will post an IRS Form 8937 later this week with the information. On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 6:48 PM Geoff wrote: > Hi Fred > > First up you need more details on this transaction to determine the > exact nature of the spin-off, the valuations, and whether ABC treated it > a

Re: [GNC] Stock spinoff

2022-12-04 Thread john
Companies used to send shareholders a letter stating the relative valuations of the spun off and original shares, but the last couple of spinoffs I've had they instead posted it on the original company's website and I had to Google for it. In some cases you might have to find the SEC filing for

Re: [GNC] Stock spinoff

2022-12-03 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
Well said,  Geoff. I'd add that creating the new share is a simple process of making a transaction that adds the new share to its account. It's the determination of cost basis (for both the original shares and the new share you received) that complicates things. These affect future gains calc

Re: [GNC] Stock spinoff

2022-12-03 Thread Geoff
Hi Fred First up you need more details on this transaction to determine the exact nature of the spin-off, the valuations, and whether ABC treated it as a dividend, capital reduction, or combination of both. Was there a cash payment as well? Any fractional shares involved? Were capital gain

[GNC] Stock spinoff

2022-12-03 Thread Fred Tydeman
In looking at the Help file within GnuCash, I found a section on Splits and Mergers. After reading that section, I still do not know how to enter a Spinoff. That it, I have 25 shares of ABC stock. They did some kind of spin off and gave me 1 share of XYZ stock. I still have 25 shares of ABC. Ho