Re: client-server

2000-12-29 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that Derek Atkins said: > I would also warn you that if you split the CGI, you then completely > lose the benefits of any security, unless you pass the security > metadata across from one program to the other. ??? A common way of providing 'security' with http/cgi is to to gi

Re: Access Controls

2000-12-29 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > It should be clear why Transaction engine and DB engine should stay close; > they will need to communicate quite a lot of data in order to negotiate > the parts that are to be submitted to the GUI. A "for instance" would > be that if the DB doe

Re: client-server

2000-12-29 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that Derek Atkins said: > Just to play devil's advocate let me throw another log on the fire: > what we really want here is a distributed file system. Before http was invented, these were considered for the web. Unfortunately, nfs was not secure, and afs was propreitary & to

Re: SEGFAULT when importing old (binary) files

2000-12-29 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that Herbert Thoma said: > > Hi! > > With the newest cvs version I get a segfault when I > try to import a old data file. There's a whole variety of core dumps when importing old files with the current cvs version. Many of these happen when tryig to generate a report. Othe

Re: Support for casual users (was: Re: client-server)

2000-12-29 Thread David Merrill
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 02:12:07PM +1100, Robert Graham Merkel wrote: > Eugene Tyurin writes: > > > > > Is this really something a casual user who wants to balance his > > checkbook and know how much he spends on beer can bear? > > Unless it's totally transparent to them, no. Basic

Re: Access Controls

2000-12-29 Thread David Merrill
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 02:46:51AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It's been rumoured that [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > > > It should be clear why Transaction engine and DB engine should stay close; > > they will need to communicate quite a lot of data in order to negotiate > > the parts that ar

Re: SEGFAULT when importing old (binary) files

2000-12-29 Thread Bill Gribble
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 03:16:28AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There's a whole variety of core dumps when importing old files > with the current cvs version. Many of these happen when > tryig to generate a report. Linas, the segfaults when trying to generate reports are a bug in gtkhtml.

Re: client-server

2000-12-29 Thread David Merrill
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 03:09:46AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > (btw, in 'real' accounting systems, the actual balance is stored, > and is not computed on the fly by totalling up all transactions. > In gnucash, we total it on the fly because that was the easier thing > to do at the time.)

Re: How do I get the top-level HTML widget from a gnc_report_window?

2000-12-29 Thread Bill Gribble
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 01:56:45PM +1100, Robert Graham Merkel wrote: > Bill, I'm busily working on the pane code, and I need to get the > actual widget from a gnc_report_window and shove it in a container. > > How do I do so? You do it the other way 'round: pass it the container (must be a Gt

Re: client-server

2000-12-29 Thread cbbrowne
> > Actually, I was looking at RPC/Corba/etc. over TCP, not over UDP. The > > I got the impression that you were advocating RPC over UDP. Possibly a not-unreasonable impression, but that seems to me to be a too low level perspective to focus on. Better to have a prototype that works badly, and

Re: client-server

2000-12-29 Thread David Merrill
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 12:23:41AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Can we not flame? Yes, please! > Id like to hear someone give a technical overview of how SOAP handles > events. I spent last night reading the w3c's SOAP 1.1 spec. Ugh. (Not an editorial comment, just that reading s

Re: building gncash-1.4.9

2000-12-29 Thread Derek Atkins
Ok, I just built it (and figured out why it wasn't working for you, I bet). I appears that I needed to downgrade my version of g-wrap, because it wouldn't build with versions even as recent as 0.9.8. I reverted back to 0.9.1 and it built fine. So, I've now got an RPM for you. :) -derek <[EMAI

Re: building gncash-1.4.9

2000-12-29 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that Derek Atkins said: > > Ok, I just built it (and figured out why it wasn't working for you, I > bet). I appears that I needed to downgrade my version of g-wrap, > because it wouldn't build with versions even as recent as 0.9.8. I > reverted back to 0.9.1 and it built fine

Re: client-server

2000-12-29 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that David Merrill said: > I'm trying to keep up with the protocol issues here, although it isn't > my strong suit. But for the record, the transport should, imnsho, be > kept separate from the database itself. It is a layer to marshall > requests to the database and return resp

Re: SEGFAULT when importing old (binary) files

2000-12-29 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that Bill Gribble said: > Linas, the segfaults when trying to generate reports are a bug in > gtkhtml. It's fixed in their CVS version, and (I believe) in the > packages that Jim LewisMoss is distributing. > > The proximate problem is that our reports tend to generate totally

Re: client-server

2000-12-29 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that David Merrill said: > > In my design, the database will be maintaining the balance. So does > that mean gnucash will be a 'real' accounting system? ;-) I haven't seen the schema. Do you store both the 'ledger balance' and the 'trial balance' (i forget what its called), i

Re: Access Controls

2000-12-29 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that David Merrill said: > > On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 02:46:51AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > It's been rumoured that [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > > > > > It should be clear why Transaction engine and DB engine should stay close; > > > they will need to communicate quite

Re: client-server

2000-12-29 Thread David Merrill
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 11:06:02AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It's been rumoured that David Merrill said: > > > > In my design, the database will be maintaining the balance. So does > > that mean gnucash will be a 'real' accounting system? ;-) > > I haven't seen the schema. Do you store

Re: Access Controls

2000-12-29 Thread David Merrill
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 11:38:40AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It's been rumoured that David Merrill said: > > > > On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 02:46:51AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > It's been rumoured that [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > > > > > > > It should be clear why Transaction eng

Re: client-server

2000-12-29 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that David Merrill said: > Not with each transaction, which is unwieldy in case of edits. current > balance, cleared balance and reconciled balance are all stored with > the account. > > Additionally, there is a checkpointing mechanism, whereby the three > balances are recorded

Re: Access Controls

2000-12-29 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that David Merrill said: > > Do you mean to > set a "lock" (not a real DB lock though, or at least not necessarily a > real DB lock) when the user BEGINS to do an edit, so other users > cannot? Now THAT makes sense. :-) Yes. I tend to speak metaphorically. > > If you think a

Re: Access Controls

2000-12-29 Thread David Merrill
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 12:39:17PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It's been rumoured that David Merrill said: > > > > Do you mean to > > set a "lock" (not a real DB lock though, or at least not necessarily a > > real DB lock) when the user BEGINS to do an edit, so other users > > cannot? Now T

db scripts and design

2000-12-29 Thread David Merrill
I've made my working directory available for browsing so you can all look at it if you're interested. I had made the design doc available previously, but there is now getting to be more files, including actual sql code. Of course it's not the live directory; it's a copy made hourly from cron. Av

Re: Access Controls

2000-12-29 Thread Dave Peticolas
David Merrill writes: > > Yes, I am trying to do it this way if I can. It is decidedly > nontrivial and may not make it into the first release. I am already > becoming rather ruthless about cutting things. > > I *do* keep a complete auditing trail, so changes *can* be reversed. That's very nice

Re: Access Controls

2000-12-29 Thread David Merrill
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 01:29:12PM -0800, Dave Peticolas wrote: > David Merrill writes: > > > > Yes, I am trying to do it this way if I can. It is decidedly > > nontrivial and may not make it into the first release. I am already > > becoming rather ruthless about cutting things. > > > > I *do* k

Re: Access Controls

2000-12-29 Thread Dave Peticolas
David Merrill writes: > On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 01:29:12PM -0800, Dave Peticolas wrote: > > David Merrill writes: > > > > > > Yes, I am trying to do it this way if I can. It is decidedly > > > nontrivial and may not make it into the first release. I am already > > > becoming rather ruthless about

Re: Access Controls

2000-12-29 Thread David Merrill
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 01:57:56PM -0800, Dave Peticolas wrote: > David Merrill writes: > > On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 01:29:12PM -0800, Dave Peticolas wrote: > > > David Merrill writes: > > > > > > > > Yes, I am trying to do it this way if I can. It is decidedly > > > > nontrivial and may not make

Re: How do I get the top-level HTML widget from a gnc_report_window?

2000-12-29 Thread Robert Graham Merkel
Bill Gribble writes: > On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 01:56:45PM +1100, Robert Graham Merkel wrote: > > Bill, I'm busily working on the pane code, and I need to get the > > actual widget from a gnc_report_window and shove it in a container. > > > > How do I do so? > > You do it the other way '

Re: Support for casual users (was: Re: client-server)

2000-12-29 Thread Dave Peticolas
David Merrill writes: > > I know that you mean this sincerely. But we really do need to define > the overall goal/scope of the project. Much has been implied but > fairly little has been actually laid out. > > 1. Are we going to continue support for the local file store? I think that depends on

Interface to pass a popup menu to a gnc_report_window

2000-12-29 Thread Robert Graham Merkel
Bill, I think we discussed before how I'd like to be able to pass a popup menu to a report_window. How difficult would this be to arrange? Robert Merkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] "We are excited and optimi

Re: Access Controls

2000-12-29 Thread linas
Hi David, Excellent! It's been rumoured that David Merrill said: > > Lets assume we are using onc-rpc (or corba or xml-rpc or soap). > > > > ** GUI user uses mouse to highlight transaction for editing. > > ** xaccTransBeginEdit() sends rpc/iiop/xml message to server. > > ** GUI user types in