Re: The Library Problem

2000-06-08 Thread Justin Clift
Hi, I can testify that it's a real PAIN to make a solid installer FRAMEWORK, but once a very solid template/framework is in place things go very smooth and very fast. Found this out when doing Application Packaging with IBM GSA (~60,000 user site). The initial application "package" goes out int

Re: The Library Problem

2000-06-08 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that Garrett Robert Banuk said: > > Yes, I've thought about doing this. Maybe on my free time over this > summer. I was going to do this for my college project but it just > seems to small. I think you wildly underestimate how hard it is to do a good installer. I think you

Re: The Library Problem

2000-05-27 Thread Allan Peak
I agree. I think Linux should move out of the "geeks only" category and become an OS everyone can use. Gnucash is a very important end user program and if the end-user can't install it he won't use it. --- Bill Gribble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It may be unrealistic, but I would like an in

Re: The Library Problem

2000-05-27 Thread Bill Gribble
Dylan Paul Thurston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In particular, it seems like Helix Code has raised a lot of capital to > address exactly this problem for programs very much like gnucash. Actually, no. Helix Code will be selling the "gnome CD" which simplifies a LOT of these problems. They can

Re: The Library Problem

2000-05-27 Thread Dylan Paul Thurston
On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 10:21:12PM -0500, Christopher Browne wrote: ...stuff about library problem... > I don't see there being _massive_ value to designing anything to this > end. In particular, it seems like Helix Code has raised a lot of capital to address exactly this problem for programs ver

Re: The Library Problem

2000-05-25 Thread Glen Ditchfield
On Thu, 25 May 2000, Bill Gribble wrote: > And what if the user doing the install isn't root and can't even write > in /usr/local? ... There needs to be some way to re-root the > install at install time so that you can put gnucash under an arbitrary > directory without re-configuring and re-build

Re: The Library Problem

2000-05-25 Thread Garrett Robert Banuk
Yes, I've thought about doing this. Maybe on my free time over this summer. I was going to do this for my college project but it just seems to small. It would really help to get people to migrate over to linux. Well this is getting off topic for this list... On 25 May 2000, Bill Gribble wrote:

Re: The Library Problem

2000-05-25 Thread Bill Gribble
Garrett Banuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Maybe have 2 or 3 versions of gnucash. Source, binary and statically > linked everything binary for a the linux newbies who wouldn't know how to > install everything else. It may be unrealistic, but I would like an install experience that's as novice-

Re: The Library Problem

2000-05-25 Thread Garrett Banuk
Maybe have 2 or 3 versions of gnucash. Source, binary and statically linked everything binary for a the linux newbies who wouldn't know how to install everything else. At 06:48 PM 5/25/00 +0200, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote: >I think your problem is a fundamental one. It's the same problem **al

Re: The Library Problem

2000-05-25 Thread T.Pospisek's MailLists
I think your problem is a fundamental one. It's the same problem **all** the commercial vendors have, whether they use gnome or not. See f.ex. StarOffice which was (still is?) statically linked even against the most basic labraries. It's what the LSB is about and here for (www.linuxbase.org). *t

Re: The Library Problem

2000-05-25 Thread Bill Gribble
Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It seems to me to make sense to use the appropriate dependancy management > system for differing Linux and BSD systems. If we build our own, all > we accomplish is to force an extra packaging system that will conflict > with the "native" one (e.g.

Re: The Library Problem

2000-05-24 Thread T.Pospisek's MailLists
On Wed, 24 May 2000, Christopher Browne wrote: > This covers the _vast_ majority of the systems at issue. It is, > admittedly, not helpful for the users of Irix, SCO, Solaris, AIX, or > HP-UX; hopefully they can provide some assistance in at least putting > together some form of "dependancy list

The Library Problem

2000-05-24 Thread Christopher Browne
On Wed, 24 May 2000 21:22:56 EDT, the world broke into rejoicing as Hendrik Boom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >Hmm, how about some kind of install program? I was thinking of doing > > > this as a generic thing on my spare time, but something that checks if > > > certain libraries are install