Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Dave Peticolas
Derek Atkins writes: > So, any comments? Yup, I agree too. dave ___ gnucash-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gnumatic.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel

QIF importer dies

2000-10-31 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi, I tried to import two QIF files (with the same transactions but from different accounts, one account per file). I got through the whole process and then Gnucash died with this error: /var/tmp/gnucash/share/gnucash/scm/qif-import/qif-dialog-utils.scm:489:34: In procedure gsubr-apply in expr

Re: Perl API

2000-10-31 Thread Darren/Torin/Who Ever...
Dave Peticolas, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote: >Ok. The engine is changing a lot these days, so I would hold off on >doing any work on it right now. When it's starts to stabilize, anyone >who is interested should feel free to update the swig API work. This >will require a fair bit o

QIF Import scrollbar auto-scrolls to top!

2000-10-31 Thread Derek Atkins
I'm trying to import a QIF file and I have to hand-massage all the categories. There are lots of them, so I have to scroll down to change them all. That's not a big deal. Unfortunately, every time I change a category on an item, the window scrolls back to the top of the page. This can get real

Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Derek Atkins
Jonathan Blandford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Less code to write. More code share amongst other apps on your desktop > (ie. those using GNOME). If gnucash ever decides to use Bonobo, it'll > need to be using CORBA anyway. The thing about protocols (especially > those involving applications)

Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Jonathan Blandford
Derek Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Yes it can. You can send multiple oneway requests, and let the remote > > object send oneway replies back. > > ... at this point what added benefit are you getting from CORBA? To > me, at this point you are still defining a protocol, and using CORBA

Re: Patch to get current mainline to compile on RH6.2

2000-10-31 Thread Derek Atkins
Thanks, it appears to be working now (or, at least, it builds ;) -derek Dave Peticolas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Derek Atkins writes: > > Well, with those couple of changes, it appears to be working for me > > with the libxml-1.8.6 (which is shipped with RH 6.2). Are we not > > going to su

Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Derek Atkins
Thanks.. That just bolsters my opinion that CORBA is the Wrong Thing(TM) because we would still have to handle packet retransmissions ourselves. So I have to wonder what benefit CORBA is providing. Thanks :) -derek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Aren't guaranteed to be delivered to the other

RE: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread mike . perik
Aren't guaranteed to be delivered to the other side. Mike > -Original Message- > From: Derek Atkins [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 1:56 PM > To: Perik, Mike > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Trial Balloon: A

Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Derek Atkins
Aren't guaranteed to be one-way, or aren't guaranteed to make it to the other side? -derek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > CORBA oneway calls are not guaranteed. > > Mike > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jonathan Blandford [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, Octobe

Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Derek Atkins
Jonathan Blandford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 84 RPC calls? That's pretty heavy, regardless of the protocol or > mechanism. But that aside, CORBA has the oneway directive that lets you > send asynchronous requests. Yea, I was flabergasted when I heard that, too. It's not something that M$

Re: Patch to get autogen.sh to work on RH 6.2

2000-10-31 Thread Derek Atkins
That's what I thought, but aclocal was complaining. I can't say as I understand why. -derek Dave Peticolas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Derek Atkins writes: > > Hi, > > > > The following patch is necessary to get the current mainline > > to successfully 'autogen.sh' on a RedHat 6.2 machine.

RE: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread mike . perik
CORBA oneway calls are not guaranteed. Mike > -Original Message- > From: Jonathan Blandford [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 2:28 PM > To: Derek Atkins > Cc: Rob Browning; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture? >

Re: Patch to get current mainline to compile on RH6.2

2000-10-31 Thread Dave Peticolas
Derek Atkins writes: > Well, with those couple of changes, it appears to be working for me > with the libxml-1.8.6 (which is shipped with RH 6.2). Are we not > going to support RH 6.2 in the development version? > > I certainly have no qualms about requiring a rebuild between the two > versions

Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Jonathan Blandford
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > CORBA oneway calls are not guaranteed. They require "best effort" by the ORB. Network calls aren't guaranteed either... Thanks, -Jonathan ___ gnucash-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gnumatic.com/cgi-bin/ma

Re: Patch to get current mainline to compile on RH6.2

2000-10-31 Thread Derek Atkins
Well, with those couple of changes, it appears to be working for me with the libxml-1.8.6 (which is shipped with RH 6.2). Are we not going to support RH 6.2 in the development version? I certainly have no qualms about requiring a rebuild between the two versions of libxml, but it would be a sham

Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Jonathan Blandford
Hi Derek, While I'm hardly a CORBA expert, I'd like to reply to some of these comments. Derek Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On the data communication side, there's also CORBA to consider. > > I personally dislike CORBA. My reasoning is

Re: Patch to get current mainline to compile on RH6.2

2000-10-31 Thread Dave Peticolas
Derek Atkins writes: > Hi, > > I needed the following patch to get the CVS mainline to compile > on RH6.2 using libxml-devel-1.8.6-2. The problem is the apparent > lack of an xmlRootNode member of the xmlDocPtr object. At least > in version 1.8.6, that structure member is called 'root', not > '

Re: Patch to get autogen.sh to work on RH 6.2

2000-10-31 Thread Dave Peticolas
Derek Atkins writes: > Hi, > > The following patch is necessary to get the current mainline > to successfully 'autogen.sh' on a RedHat 6.2 machine. Namely, > change 'AM_PATH_GDK_PIXBUF' to 'GNOME_CHECK_GDK_PIXBUF'. > > -derek > > Index: macros/gnome-gdk-pixbuf.m4 >

Patch to get current mainline to compile on RH6.2

2000-10-31 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi, I needed the following patch to get the CVS mainline to compile on RH6.2 using libxml-devel-1.8.6-2. The problem is the apparent lack of an xmlRootNode member of the xmlDocPtr object. At least in version 1.8.6, that structure member is called 'root', not 'xmlRootNode'. -derek Index: src/e

Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Rob Browning
Derek Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I personally dislike CORBA. My reasoning is two-fold: I don't actually know enough about CORBA to dislike it :> but I've messed with RPC systems enough to sympathize strongly with your criticisms. I mostly just brought it up as another one of those th

Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Derek Atkins
Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On the data communication side, there's also CORBA to consider. I personally dislike CORBA. My reasoning is two-fold: 1) Synchronous RPC is BAD (in many cases). 2) CORBA tries to push protocol design onto programmers.. But

Re: Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Rob Browning
Derek Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So, any comments? Yep. How about "You're more or less exactly right." :> Pieces of this discussion have popped up on the list in various incarnations over the years, and we all know this kind of thing is needed, but it's a big job, and no one's exactl

Re: Implementing proper cost basis tracking for shares

2000-10-31 Thread Rob Browning
Richard -Gilligan- Uschold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This sounds very interesting!  I haven't been able to come up with a > 'best' way to hierarchicalize (is that a word) my accounts. > > If this were implemented, would this mean that in each hierarchical > view, we would get different total

Re: Implementing proper cost basis tracking for shares

2000-10-31 Thread Rob Browning
Dave Peticolas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So we would have a 'long' name and a 'nickname'? Sure, though in my original incarnation, I was thinking of an potentially limitless number of nicknames depending on the view that the account was in. In fact the name would be a part of the view (basi

Patch to get autogen.sh to work on RH 6.2

2000-10-31 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi, The following patch is necessary to get the current mainline to successfully 'autogen.sh' on a RedHat 6.2 machine. Namely, change 'AM_PATH_GDK_PIXBUF' to 'GNOME_CHECK_GDK_PIXBUF'. -derek Index: macros/gnome-gdk-pixbuf.m4 === R

Re: Get PostgreSQL installed as part of the distros

2000-10-31 Thread Christopher Browne
> Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The options that leap to mind are: > > What did you think about the info I got on embedding MySQL and > PosgreSQL (did I post that?). I'm not sure I saw that; could be "user error" on my part. > If not, I spoke to both camps, and the MySQL

Trial Balloon: A new DataStore Architecture?

2000-10-31 Thread Derek Atkins
I've been thinking about the Disk-File vs. Database arguments for a while, and I think there are some broader architectural changes to the current datastore model that would need to be made before any kind of multi-access could be implemented. My thesis is that if we can move to a more "object-or