Re: Standardization of Function Keys

2012-07-16 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sun, 2012-07-15 at 22:30 -0400, Trans wrote: > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jasper St. Pierre > wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Trans wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Jasper St. Pierre > > No it wouldn't. Not to mention that Ctrl+F5 already means "clear the > > ca

Re: Standardization of Function Keys

2012-07-16 Thread Ross Burton
On 16 July 2012 02:56, Trans wrote: >> So now the rules are "F1-F12 map to the first twelve unchanging items >> in the menu"? How am I supposed to know what those are, other than >> blind guessing? > > You would look at them. You would still be able to click them with a mouse. After the first few

Re: Standardization of Function Keys

2012-07-16 Thread Aurélien Naldi
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Trans wrote: [...] >> No it wouldn't. Not to mention that Ctrl+F5 already means "clear the >> cache for all assets refreshed on this page, and then refresh". > > Sure it would. Everyone had to adjust to completely new way of > navigating the desktop in the transiti

Re: Standardization of Function Keys

2012-07-15 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Trans wrote: > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jasper St. Pierre > wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Trans wrote: >>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Jasper St. Pierre >>> wrote: So now the rules are "F1-F12 map to the first twelve unchang

Re: Standardization of Function Keys

2012-07-15 Thread Trans
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Trans wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Jasper St. Pierre >> wrote: >>> >>> So now the rules are "F1-F12 map to the first twelve unchanging items >>> in the menu"? How am I supposed to know wha

Standardization of Function Keys

2012-07-15 Thread Trans
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Florian Müllner wrote: > Independently from whether this is a good idea or not, this is nothing > a window manager can handle - in general, we can't even tell whether a > window actually has a menubar(*) in the first place, and even if we > could, we still didn't

Standardization of Function Keys

2012-07-15 Thread Trans
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > > So now the rules are "F1-F12 map to the first twelve unchanging items > in the menu"? How am I supposed to know what those are, other than > blind guessing? You would look at them. You would still be able to click them with a mouse. >

Re: Standardization of Function Keys

2012-07-12 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 09:14 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Trans wrote: > > A long time ago I used an early DOS-based application, I believe it > > was a spreadsheet, but I do not recall the exact program at this > > point. However I do recollect the interface

Re: Standardization of Function Keys

2012-07-12 Thread Florian Müllner
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Trans wrote: > I have always wanted to see a window manager that provided the same > functionality. When pressing F1 the first menu would drop down --in > modern applications this is typically the `File` menu. Independently from whether this is a good idea or not,

Re: Standardization of Function Keys

2012-07-12 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Trans wrote: > Hi-- > > I am new to the list and am a recent convert to Gnome 3. Out of all > the latest DE's I've used (which is just about all of them) I think it > is clearly the stand-out. Thanks for all the hard work! > > I have joined the mailing list b/c I w

Standardization of Function Keys

2012-07-12 Thread Trans
Hi-- I am new to the list and am a recent convert to Gnome 3. Out of all the latest DE's I've used (which is just about all of them) I think it is clearly the stand-out. Thanks for all the hard work! I have joined the mailing list b/c I would like to make a (serious) suggestion. A long time ago