Best way for extensions to include external JS files

2011-07-08 Thread Tim Cuthbertson
I want to bundle log4javascript with my gnome-shell extension. I obviously don't want to copy & paste it into my extension.js, so I'm wondering what the best way to bundle it with my extension is. In my current development version, I'm just including it in extensions/myextension/lib/ and adding th

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Aurélien Naldi
On Jul 9, 2011 2:54 AM, "Florian Max" wrote: >> I agree that puttng "background" windows on a separate workspace >> unclutters the overview, but it certainly isn't a perfect solution, >> just a workaround: >> * it still clutters the dock > > All running applications "clutter" the dock. To be hones

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 00:43 +0200, Florian Müllner wrote: > 2011/7/9 Tassilo Horn > Well, not that bad. But still it needs three actions to pause > the music > player: (1) open overview, (2) activate/unhide player, (3) > press pause > in it. With the usual

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Florian Max
2011/7/8 Aurélien Naldi > Good to know, I did see a "persistent" hint in the spec, but it was > described as "wait until the notification is acknowledged", not truly > persistent. If this is a new hint, I hope it will be added to the spec > as what I would like is a _consistent_ way to do it. If

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Florian Müllner
2011/7/9 Tassilo Horn > Well, not that bad. But still it needs three actions to pause the music > player: (1) open overview, (2) activate/unhide player, (3) press pause > in it. With the usual system tray (aka notification area with icon > abuse), it's usually just right-click > pause. > It is

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Tassilo Horn
Florian Müllner writes: Hi Florian, >> I've checked the report. So if I'd hide a window, how would I get it >> back if I need it? If I understand it correctly, it's not in the >> overview or the window picker. > > The application icon is still in the dash. Right-clicking gives the > option to

Weekly Work Summary- Week 7

2011-07-08 Thread Nohemi Fernandez
Onscreen Keyboard- Weekly Report 07 As I mentioned last week, I have been traveling this past week. Despite that I have managed to get a lot done. I rewrote most of the Caribou fullscale layout in order to accommodate for the F1-12 keys and get rid of some of the ugly gaps in the layout. Dan also

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Tassilo Horn
Florian Max writes: Hi Florian, >> I tend to agree. However, there are few ubiquitous apps which one >> doesn't want to see but always have quick access to. > > The current recommendation to applications is to use notification > actions to provide "quick access". I would be fine if Quod Libet

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Aurélien Naldi
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Florian Müllner wrote: > That is no longer true. Usually notifications are shown for a short time at > the bottom center of the screen and then move to the summary until > acknowledged by the user.  Applications can specify a 'persistent' hint > though, which means

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Florian Müllner
2011/7/8 Tassilo Horn > I would be fine if Quod Libet would fire a notification with play/pause > toggle as soon as my phone rings, but right now phone and computer are > still separate things. I guess things will improve in the future. > > In your rythmbox screenshot, when does that notificatio

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Holger Berndt
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 18:20:22 +0200, Florian Müllner wrote: > As I see it, the use of "notification" icons as a > way for applications to run in the background has its origins on > Windows - as there are no workspaces, every running application uses > precious space in the task bar, so the "minimiz

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 18:24 +0200, Giovanni Campagna wrote: > > > I do like the notification part in gnome-shell (beside the integrated > > > chat stealing focus, but all it needs is tweaking), I was talking > > > about the "interact with background application" part: I thought > > > gnome-shell a

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Aurélien Naldi wrote: > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Florian Max > wrote: >> The "specific API" used by GNOME Shell is called libnotify, which was >> already used in GNOME 2. Ubuntu uses it for its notify-osd, and apparently >> it is also supported in KDE[0]. T

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Florian Müllner
2011/7/8 Aurélien Naldi > As far as I know, libnotify supports only notifications (and does it > well). They can vanish after a while or require acknowledgement, but > they can not be truly persistent. That is no longer true. Usually notifications are shown for a short time at the bottom center

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il giorno ven, 08/07/2011 alle 07.24 -0700, Adam Williamson ha scritto: > On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 15:19 +0200, Aurélien Naldi wrote: > > > As far as I know, libnotify supports only notifications (and does it > > well). They can vanish after a while or require acknowledgement, but > > they can not be

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 15:19 +0200, Aurélien Naldi wrote: > As far as I know, libnotify supports only notifications (and does it > well). They can vanish after a while or require acknowledgement, but > they can not be truly persistent. The notification area was used both > for such notifications an

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Aurélien Naldi
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Florian Max wrote: > The "specific API" used by GNOME Shell is called libnotify, which was > already used in GNOME 2. Ubuntu uses it for its notify-osd, and apparently > it is also supported in KDE[0]. The support for status icons is considered > legacy, its use is

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Tassilo Horn
Florian Max writes: Hi Florian, > The support for status icons is considered legacy, its use is highly > discouraged (and so would be the use of the KDE/Canonical replacement > if support is added) - the message tray is a place to notify users > about a particular event, not a taskbar replacemen

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Florian Max
2011/7/8 Aurélien Naldi > To solve this, the application (and shell) have to move to an other > system. I think gnome-shell has a specific API for notifications which > should allow this. I would really have liked a mechanism shared with > other environments, like the indicators pushed by ubuntu

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Aurélien Naldi
Hi, On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Jairot Llopis wrote: >> >> By the way, talking about notifications, if I move the cursor over them >> >> it's >> >> only because I want to open them, so why do I have to click? There >> >> should be >> >> an option to let you open the notifications just by hov

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Jairot Llopis
2011/7/7 Jasper St. Pierre > > I'm a person who almost always uses the keyboard, and I think gnome-shell > is > > more focused in mouse usage. I'd love being able to use the keyboard to > > select items in the activites view. Using the arrow keys, or > ctrl/alt/shift > > + arrow keys to that woul

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Tassilo Horn
Evandro Giovanini writes: Hi Evandro, >> I mean, it's true that the title text und the title bar become >> narrower, but so does the rest of the text (menus, etc.), too.  Isn't >> there a way to adjust only the title bar text.  I don't see a reason >> why the text in the title bar needs to be co

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Evandro Giovanini
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Tassilo Horn wrote: > Robert Park writes: > > Hi Robert, > >>> Talking about the windows and useless screen space, is not the title >>> too thick? >> >> Go to the universal access settings and set the font size smaller. the >> titlebar and the top bar become narrow

Re: Gnome shell suggestions after a bit of usage

2011-07-08 Thread Tassilo Horn
Robert Park writes: Hi Robert, >> Talking about the windows and useless screen space, is not the title >> too thick? > > Go to the universal access settings and set the font size smaller. the > titlebar and the top bar become narrower, givin you more usable screen > space. That's a joke, isn't