Blocked

2011-05-06 Thread Allan E. Registos
Am I being blocked? I've been receiving this error: host sbcmx8.prodigy.net[207.115.36.22] said: 553 5.3.0 nlpi140 DNSBL:ATTRBL 521_is_blocked. please confirm... so I can stop responding to the list. Regards, Allan ___ gnome-shell-list mailing l

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 17:26 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > > This is a perfect example of why people should feel comfortable using > suspend-to-RAM on Linux. And that's why we made it the default if the > kernel tells us that your laptop hardware is known to suspend > successfully. For the reco

Re: Why Favorites are not on the top bar?

2011-05-06 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 19:01 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > The dock for the favorites list is just as fast > > to reach (especially if you use the Windows/Super key) > > It definitely isn't as fast. Yes, it's not hard to reach, > but in Gnome 2 it was even *more easy*: one mouse movement > and

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > I never said it was. If you want a "viable, long term choice" then > I'd > > HIGHLY suggest to stop upgrading your Fedora install > > How viable for me. How can I develop software for Fedora if I don't > upgrade my Fedora? Developing in

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:37 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > In > > addition, your claim that GNOME "gives users no choice" is > incredibly > > false: you can enable Forced Fallback mode in System Settings to a > GNOME > > 2-like UI which is meant for setups that cannot run the new GNOME 3. > >

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 06:10 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > If someone is shocked by GNOME3 or claims they don't know the > reasoning for the changes - they did not take any time at all to go > look > [so not knowing is a rather inevitable condition]. So anyone coming > here [Hey, they found t

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: >> These four apps are: Firefox, Evolution, Xchat2 and terminal. >> I don't want to launch and terminal every time 100% of time. >> I do it when I came *to work*. I don't do it at home. > > This is a perfect example of why people should feel

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > Trying. > Alt-F1, click -> Expose closes, app #1 launches. > Need to open Expose again, so: > Alt-F1, click -> Expose closes, app #2 launches. > Alt-F1, click -> Expose closes, app #3 launches. > Alt-F1, click -> Expose closes, app #4 launche

Re: Key bindings with "Windows" key not working after GNOME 3

2011-05-06 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
The problem, as I understand it, is that the key is considered a modifier to X11, but we want it to do something when you press it, so we do some dirty magic... which unfortunately makes it not a modifier anymore. On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Eduardo Dobay wrote: > Had I searched for just on

Re: Key bindings with "Windows" key not working after GNOME 3

2011-05-06 Thread Eduardo Dobay
Had I searched for just one more couple of minutes, I would have found this question at SuperUser: http://superuser.com/questions/278999/problem-mapping-keyboard-shortcuts-in-gnome3 I got my shortcuts to work doing what is described there (mapping Left Win key to Meta under 'Region and Languages'

Key bindings with "Windows" key not working after GNOME 3

2011-05-06 Thread Eduardo Dobay
Today I updated to GNOME 3 with GNOME Shell, and after a while I noticed that some of my keybindings, made via xbindkeys, didn't work anymore -- namely the key combinations that involved a Mod4 (the Super_L, or "Windows logo" key). In GNOME Shell, the Windows Logo key alone is bound to the "desktop

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Philipp Mohrenweiser
Another feature i didnt know, and i use gnome for 3 years now ! tnx a lot! Cheers phil 2011/5/6 Adam Tauno Williams > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 22:46 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:24 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 21:19 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wro

Shell suggestion and gripes

2011-05-06 Thread ml
Like first I have to admit two things. I only tried livecd release so some gripes might not even be valid and gnome-shell is the best desktop experience so far. Can't wait for F15 (to my sadness fedora publishes other rpm repos only after release and I really don't plan on compiling everything I ne

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 15:51, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:25 +0200, David Prieto wrote: > > Denys, > > > > Having suddenly to learn a new UI is not what I planned to do > > this > > weekend. I have some other work to do. > > > > You do realize that you

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 15:46, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > > Trying. > > > Alt-F1, click -> Expose closes, app #1 launches. > > > Need to open Expose again, so: > > > Alt-F1, click -> Expose closes, app #2 launches. > > > Alt-F1, click -> Expose closes, app #3 launches. > > > Alt-F1, click -> Expose

Re: screen backlight setting

2011-05-06 Thread Cosimo Cecchi
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 22:39 +0200, Koppányi Tamás wrote: > there seems to be a persistent problem with screen backlight setting > under gnome3. even if the correct backlight leves are set in power > management, the shell ignores these, and alwyas sets the backlight to > maximum when on AC power, a

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:25 +0200, David Prieto wrote: > > Denys, > > > > Having suddenly to learn a new UI is not what I planned to do > > this > > weekend. I have some other work to do. > > > > You do realize that y

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Justin Edwards
Also for terminal, this is my favorite behavior. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilda_(software) Justin Edwards Telelanguage Inc Network Manager On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 22:46 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:24

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 22:46 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:24 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 21:19 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:07 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:25 +0200, David Prieto wrote: > Denys, > > Having suddenly to learn a new UI is not what I planned to do > this > weekend. I have some other work to do. > > You do realize that you've spent more time complaining on the ML than > it would have taken

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:24 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 21:19 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:07 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > > > > > > Explaining: > > > > Now I need to move it

screen backlight setting

2011-05-06 Thread Koppányi Tamás
hi! there seems to be a persistent problem with screen backlight setting under gnome3. even if the correct backlight leves are set in power management, the shell ignores these, and alwyas sets the backlight to maximum when on AC power, and minimum when on battery. is there any workaround for this?

ibus try icon

2011-05-06 Thread Koppányi Tamás
hi! i'm having this problem under opensuse (tumbleweed), that ibus doesn't appear anywhere. under ubuntu the try icon for the input method is on the notification bar, and as i remember in fedora rawhide it's next to the sound and network icons on the panel (a batter solution imho), but unfortunate

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 21:19 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:07 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > > > > Explaining: > > > Now I need to move it upwards, then downwards. > > > > > > If I want to start four apps in

feedback

2011-05-06 Thread philip ballinger
hi all, gnome3 is starting to work out for me. nice job! i do 3d and composite for a living and will, at some point i will migrate to gnome 3 on my workstation. right now its on my office/testing pc. ill keep it short and just list a few things i miss or still need. wish list: cpu / weather

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Justin Edwards
Denys, If you talk to any group of people (grouped by a practice or philosophy) and say what their practice is unacceptable. Prepare to be treated in a way that is unacceptable. Your language came in a way that was insulting, so people respond accordingly. If this is your only machine and you

Re: Why Favorites are not on the top bar?

2011-05-06 Thread Justin Edwards
Gnome 3 plays nicely with on screen launchers. Justin Edwards TeleLanguage Inc, Network Administrator On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 20:13 +0200, David Prieto wrote: > > How this would be different if basically the same Favorites IU > >

Re: Why Favorites are not on the top bar?

2011-05-06 Thread G. Michael Carter
Sorry I was referring to the Favorites. I read the subject line. I agree that it would be a duplicate but extensions are more add-ons for people to have choice. In any case if the Gnome developers don't like it... there's no reason a third party (like the fedora team) couldn't write one. [?]

Re: Close button is sometimes missing.

2011-05-06 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 14:05 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote: > On 05/06/2011 08:32 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > In Gnome 3, some popup windows don't have [x] > > close button at the top right corner. > > I need to find and click [Cancel] button instead. > > See the attached screenshot. > > Why? > Because

Re: Why Favorites are not on the top bar?

2011-05-06 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 20:13 +0200, David Prieto wrote: > How this would be different if basically the same Favorites IU > element > would, say, slide down from, or enlarges the top of the > screen, > when mouse is moved there? Imagine small Favorites thingy >

Re: Close button is sometimes missing.

2011-05-06 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 14:05 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote: > On 05/06/2011 08:32 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > In Gnome 3, some popup windows don't have [x] > > close button at the top right corner. > > I need to find and click [Cancel] button instead. > > > > See the attached screenshot. > > > > Why?

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:07 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > > Explaining: > > Now I need to move it upwards, then downwards. > > > > If I want to start four apps in a row, which I do every day in the > > morning, I can't go up and click

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 12:37 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote: > On 05/06/2011 11:16 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > On my previous installation - Fedora 13 - it was Gnome 2. > > I just installed Fedora 15 and it uses Gnome 3. Oops. > > > > Having suddenly to learn a new UI is not what I planned to do this >

Re: Close button is sometimes missing.

2011-05-06 Thread Ryan Peters
On 05/06/2011 08:32 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: In Gnome 3, some popup windows don't have [x] close button at the top right corner. I need to find and click [Cancel] button instead. See the attached screenshot. Why? ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list

Re: Why Favorites are not on the top bar?

2011-05-06 Thread Ryan Peters
On 05/06/2011 01:38 PM, G. Michael Carter wrote: What about writing the dock extension so it's a button like the places or drive menu. That way people can get their "Menu" sort of speak with out interfering with the design. While that sounds nice, it duplicates the features GNOME 3 already has

Re: Why Favorites are not on the top bar?

2011-05-06 Thread G. Michael Carter
What about writing the dock extension so it's a button like the places or drive menu. That way people can get their "Menu" sort of speak with out interfering with the design. On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Ryan Peters wrote: > On 05/06/2011 08:46 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > >> Since top ba

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:30 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Denys Vlasenko > wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:33 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote: > > Expecting GNOME 3 to be the same as every > > other OS is unrealistic; GNOME 3 is not a straigh

Re: Why Favorites are not on the top bar?

2011-05-06 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:04 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote: > On 05/06/2011 08:46 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > Since top bar still exists, and the place where icons used to be > > now is not used for anything, what about making it possible > > to have Favorites *there* > There are a lot of different scr

Re: Why Favorites are not on the top bar?

2011-05-06 Thread David Prieto
Denys, How this would be different if basically the same Favorites IU element > would, say, slide down from, or enlarges the top of the screen, > when mouse is moved there? Imagine small Favorites thingy situated > to the right from "Activities" in the upper left corner... > First, weren't you th

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > Explaining: > Now I need to move it upwards, then downwards. > > If I want to start four apps in a row, which I do every day in the > morning, I can't go up and click-click-click-click, I need to > go up, go down and click, > go up, go do

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Elia Cogodi
If you don't want to leave the overview you can just drag each app you want to launch. It hardly takes longer than clicking, I can probably launch 4 apps in my dash in about 3 seconds - hit windows key - drag icon 1 - drag icon 2 - drag icon 3 - click icon 4 If I'm really organized it will take sl

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Ryan Peters
On 05/06/2011 11:16 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: On my previous installation - Fedora 13 - it was Gnome 2. I just installed Fedora 15 and it uses Gnome 3. Oops. Having suddenly to learn a new UI is not what I planned to do this weekend. I have some other work to do. If you don't want to learn a new

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:33 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote: > > Expecting GNOME 3 to be the same as every > > other OS is unrealistic; GNOME 3 is not a straightforward upgrade from > > GNOME 2 and requires re-training. I thought that was understo

Re: Why Favorites are not on the top bar?

2011-05-06 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:04 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote: > On 05/06/2011 08:46 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > Since top bar still exists, and the place where icons used to be > > now is not used for anything, what about making it possible > > to have Favorites *there* > > There are a lot of different s

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:33 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote: > Expecting GNOME 3 to be the same as every > other OS is unrealistic; GNOME 3 is not a straightforward upgrade from > GNOME 2 and requires re-training. I thought that was understood. For me, Gnome 3 appears as part of Fedora 13->15 upgrade.

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > I never said it was. If you want a "viable, long term choice" then I'd > > HIGHLY suggest to stop upgrading your Fedora install > > How viable for me. s/How/Not/ ___ gnome-shell-list mailing

Gnome Shell API or hooks

2011-05-06 Thread Erick Pérez
Hi: I'm trying to write a extension for Gnome Shell but is painfully slow, cause I haven't any API, or hooks list, or events fired, or something like that, and the process it's like a try and test. Can anyone point in any direction here ? Thxs Erick -- El derecho de expresar nuestros pensamient

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread David Prieto
Denys, Having suddenly to learn a new UI is not what I planned to do this > weekend. I have some other work to do. > You do realize that you've spent more time complaining on the ML than it would have taken you to learn the new UI, right? It certainly doesn't look like you have other work to do.

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 18:00 -0500, Justin Edwards wrote: > I've been taskbar free for 4 years. I use workspaces wisely and would > never want any taskbar ever again. People really need to hold their > tongue if they have something bad to say and had to subscribe to a > list that many people are o

Re: Unity-Style Menu

2011-05-06 Thread Matthew Planchard
Take a few minutes just to sit and breathe. > The world will wait for you. > > My Google Profile <http://www.google.com/profiles/msplanchard> > Follow me on Twitter! <http://twitter.com/#!/coda1229> > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >

Re: Why Favorites are not on the top bar?

2011-05-06 Thread Ryan Peters
On 05/06/2011 08:46 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: Since top bar still exists, and the place where icons used to be now is not used for anything, what about making it possible to have Favorites *there* There are a lot of different screen sizes; some are big and some are very small. GNOME 3 wants to b

Re: Why Favorites are not on the top bar?

2011-05-06 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 10:02 -0500, Justin Edwards wrote: > Why why why why. Rtfm and stop trolling. I already read the said manual. -- vda ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-l

Re: Unity-Style Menu

2011-05-06 Thread David Prieto
Florian, There are some efforts on the design side though to come up with a > replacement for menu bars (think "menu button" in Firefox/Chromium). > See https://live.gnome.org/Design/Whiteboards/Menus for reference. > Wow, the mega menus

Re: Unity-Style Menu

2011-05-06 Thread Reiner Jung
Hi Matthew if I am not completely mistaken, this has been discussed and rejected several times on this list. However, if there would be a voting for such feature. I would go for this topbar menu thing. I for myself run Gnome3 at home and unity on my business machine. And at the beginning they bo

Re: Unity-Style Menu

2011-05-06 Thread Florian Müllner
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:47 -0500, Matthew Planchard wrote: > My idea is that since Gnome3 already has a clickable application icon > on the top bar that opens a menu with a "close" option, why not just > go ahead and insert the entire program menu? This would increase > visible screen space for th

Re: Unity-Style Menu

2011-05-06 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:47 -0500, Matthew Planchard wrote: > First, I'd like to say that I really like the Gnome3 shell. Me too. > It was definitely a surprise at first, but it's gotten to be very > intuitive. Same experience. > feature is probably my favorite thing, and I just discovered tha

Re: Why Favorites are not on the top bar?

2011-05-06 Thread David Prieto
That way they are much bigger, and thus easier to reach. Hey, that one was easy :-D ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list

Unity-Style Menu

2011-05-06 Thread Matthew Planchard
Hi All, First, I'd like to say that I really like the Gnome3 shell. It was definitely a surprise at first, but it's gotten to be very intuitive. In fact, I recently installed Ubuntu Natty Narwhal to try out their new Unity interface, and I found it to be slow, clunky, and poorly integrated in comp

Re: Gnome 3 has unmowable windows?

2011-05-06 Thread Christian Jäger
Helloy Denys, please read the GNOME 3 design document first before sending so many mails in a row. I think all your questions will be answered here: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design Greets, Chris 2011/5/6 Denys Vlasenko > In Gnome 3, some popup windows are no longer movable - > they are

Re: Narrative for Finding and Reminding

2011-05-06 Thread Christian Jäger
Federico, thanks for that very readable write-up of what the future of 'finding and reminding' could look like! This is exactly what I need for my day-to-day work. I looking forward to your mock-ups. Jasper, everyone who is so well-organised (and has the time to keep things so neatly organised)

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Justin Edwards
I've been taskbar free for 4 years. I use workspaces wisely and would never want any taskbar ever again. People really need to hold their tongue if they have something bad to say and had to subscribe to a list that many people are on and have talked about issues for years. If you don't like it,

Re: Gnome 3 has unmowable windows?

2011-05-06 Thread Micah Carrick
I just asked this question the other day: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/2011-May/msg00116.html You can disable it in Gconf: /desktop/gnome/shell/windows/attach_modal_dialogs On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 6:27 AM,

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Ryan Peters
On 05/06/2011 06:37 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 17:36 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote: Somebody needs to take this thread out back behind the shed and put a bullet through it's head for the good of humanity, so I volunteer to do so. Denys, GNOME 3 is a radical change and you have a

Why Favorites are not on the top bar?

2011-05-06 Thread Denys Vlasenko
As I promised, one issue per email. In Gnome 2, I put my often-used apps on the top bar, which made it *very* easy to launch them. Gnome 3 implements it differently, as Favorites. But for some reason, Favorites are not on the main screen, they need to be accessed via Expose. Since top bar still

Close button is sometimes missing.

2011-05-06 Thread Denys Vlasenko
In Gnome 3, some popup windows don't have [x] close button at the top right corner. I need to find and click [Cancel] button instead. See the attached screenshot. Why? -- vda <>___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.

Gnome 3 has unmowable windows?

2011-05-06 Thread Denys Vlasenko
In Gnome 3, some popup windows are no longer movable - they are centered just below parent window's titlebar and can't be moved - if you try to drag them, you drag them *together with their parent window*. Which means that if this popup window happens to cover some part of parent window which you

alternative-status-menu bug and fix

2011-05-06 Thread Erick Pérez
Hi: Don't know well where to send a patach for this, so I'm trying here. I installed gnome-shell-extensions from the git repo, and I notice that alternative-status-menu weren't working at al,, so yesterday, I managed to fix it, and here it's the patch. I still don't understand how noone notice 5t

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Philipp Mohrenweiser
Yeah perfect, thnx it was deactivated! (alt + [key above tab]) now this works like a charm ! 2011/5/6 Aurélien Naldi > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Marc Fouquet wrote: > > > >> I was wondering about the Alt+[key above Tab, usually `], i read > >> about > >> it, but it doesnt work here (ger

Re: gnome-tweak-tool issues

2011-05-06 Thread Florian Müllner
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 08:18 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > The window cannot be resized (size changed) and in the "Shell" panel the > options overrun the right side of the window [and are thus not > accessible]. I suppose gnome-tweak-tool is modeled after System Settings (and thus is not resi

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Aurélien Naldi
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Marc Fouquet wrote: > >> I was wondering about the  Alt+[key above Tab, usually `], i read >> about >> it, but it doesnt work here (german keyboard german language setting, >> self compiled shell on ubuntu natty). > > Same here (german language, Natty, Gnome Shell f

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 02:06:07PM +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > Fallback mode *is* going to die in one of the next releases. Regarding fallback mode: - there's no promise as to active development - but it should still run fine and at least critical bugs should get fixed - no plan to remove it du

Re: gnome-tweak-tool issues

2011-05-06 Thread Philipp Mohrenweiser
Hi, there is a fix for that: edit /usr/share/gnome-tweak-tool/shell.ui True and it should work. http://blog.fpmurphy.com/2011/03/customizing-the-gnome-3-shell.html cheers Phil 2011/5/6 Adam Tauno Williams > I'm trying to use gnome-tweak-tool. > > The window cannot be resized (size changed) and

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Marc Fouquet
> I was wondering about the Alt+[key above Tab, usually `], i read > about > it, but it doesnt work here (german keyboard german language setting, > self compiled shell on ubuntu natty). Same here (german language, Natty, Gnome Shell from PPA). However you can still navigate between multiple w

gnome-tweak-tool issues

2011-05-06 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
I'm trying to use gnome-tweak-tool. The window cannot be resized (size changed) and in the "Shell" panel the options overrun the right side of the window [and are thus not accessible]. gnome-tweak-tool-3.0.3-1.1.noarch openSUSE 11.4 using the GNOME:STABLE:3.0 repo. <>

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Le vendredi 06 mai 2011 à 14:06 +0200, Denys Vlasenko a écrit : > Fallback mode *is* going to die in one of the next releases. > At least that's the stated plan. Pointers? I don't remember hearing anybody saying the panel would die, and now that it's got rid of all deprecated dependencies, there's

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:51 +0200, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: > Le vendredi 06 mai 2011 à 13:37 +0200, Denys Vlasenko a écrit : > > I don't like disruptive innovation when it is not presented as an > > option, but showed down my throat by force. > > Tell me, how the particular bit of innovation whi

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:20 +0800, Allan E. Registos wrote: > Adam: > Does your GNOME Shell environment provides a "Welcome to Your New > Desktop" kind of thing and then points to gnome3.org for tutorial > videos? No. I don't recall a splash screen. > I am just responding to a post that suggest

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Le vendredi 06 mai 2011 à 13:37 +0200, Denys Vlasenko a écrit : > I don't like disruptive innovation when it is not presented as an > option, but showed down my throat by force. > Tell me, how the particular bit of innovation which removed the > possibility to have app launch icons in top panes is

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:26 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Denys Vlasenko > wrote: > On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:03 -0400, G. Michael Carter wrote: > > When F15 is release we should put this DL on auto-reply. > So many of > > these "

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:36 -0400, G. Michael Carter wrote: > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Denys Vlasenko > wrote: > On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:25 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 19:22 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > > On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 22:12 -0400, G. Michael Carter wrote: > Nice help page. Just having a look at it for the first time. Ummm > wonder if that's bad... Using Gnome-Shell for over a month now and > only now noticing the help pages... Fantastic; I didn't know it had help pages either [although

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Philipp Mohrenweiser
I can just say right! I was switching to gnome3 (or shell or how is the awesome desktop arrangement actually called) recently and i love it, but you need to be willing to improve your desktop experience! If not dont do it now! I was wondering about the Alt+[key above Tab, usually `], i read about

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 17:36 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote: > Somebody needs to take this thread out back behind the shed and put a > bullet through it's head for the good of humanity, so I volunteer to do so. > > Denys, GNOME 3 is a radical change and you have a right to be upset, but > your response