Re: Insertion of Unwanted Characters (gnome-terminal-2.10)

2005-05-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 05:06:51PM +0200, Esben Stien wrote: > When using tabs in gnome-terminal, it inserts some characters when > trying to switch to a tab that doesn't exist. > > For example, when having 2 tabs open and trying to C-PGUP (Page Up) > further than tabs available, it inserts 5~ int

Re: Run programs minimized in Metacity

2005-08-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 09:17:08PM +0200, Filip Miletic wrote: > Greetings all: > > Is it possible to ask Metacity to start a program minimized? Use devilspie. -- Regards, Olav ___ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mai

Re: Reconstruct Gnome website structure

2005-10-14 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 12:33:47PM +0200, Wout heeswijk, van wrote: > With all the efford that is going in to making gnome better known in IT land > I think it's a good idea to re-think the web-structure of the gnome > community. Changing the websites was also discussed on gnome-web-list and marke

Re: gnome-terminal and function key definitions

2005-10-24 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 09:23:13AM +1300, Sean Oughton wrote: > 1. > Google shows a few posts asking about doing the gnome-terminal > equivalent of the xterm key overrides via the .Xdefaults commands: Edit->Keyboard shortcuts. Not everything is possible. There are some bugs with more info about ch

Re: Metacity right click menu

2005-11-08 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 09:40:02PM -0500, Heyman, William S wrote: > Is there a way to edit or restrict the menu that appears when you right > click on the desktop? Right clicks on the desktop are actually handled by Nautilus, not Metacity. If you do not get a response here, ask them. -- Regard

Re: gnome-terminal functionality

2005-11-24 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 11:36:53AM +0200, Johan Kohler wrote: > Does anyone know how to launch gnome-terminal from the command-line so > that it opens a new tab if an "instance" of gnome-terminal already exists > rather than a new window? Is not possible. There is still an open enhancement bug

Re: Window List Confused About Sizes

2005-12-07 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 06:35:59AM -0800, Todd Walton wrote: > Why oh why does the window list applet on the task bar keep changing > the size of the boxes it lists to indicate which apps are open? That is a hard to fix bug. > First, can somebody clue me in on the terminology here? We have the >

Re: edit files over ftp

2006-01-10 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 09:12:34PM +0100, noskule wrote: > one more question about synchronicing data. I would like to synchronice > some folders over ftp and over ssh. I'm sure there is a too for that. > Does somebody know how its name? Rsync (command line), maybe someone wrote a GUI for that, tr

Re: From KDE to GNOME. Experiences, suggestions and comments

2006-04-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On 4/15/06, Shaun McCance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2006-04-15 at 21:09 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > OK, I just noticed a strange thing... if I have "Places" on the Nautilus > > sidebar, I can't unmount the device from there. But if I change it to > > "Tree", I can then right-click o

Re: Developing an applet using a scripting language

2006-04-17 Thread Olav Vitters
On 4/17/06, Tomer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to know whether it's possible to develop a GNOME applet using a > scripting language, like perl or python. > > If it's possible, where can I find information about it, i.e. a > tutorial, a how-to or just a sample code? At least possible with

Re: From KDE to GNOME. Experiences, suggestions and comments

2006-04-18 Thread Olav Vitters
On 4/18/06, Esben Stien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shaun McCance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > You want Devil's Pie > > I think it would be better to file a bug report and fix the > problem. Devils' Pie is just evading the real problem. There is no problem. This would be an enhancement reque

Re: Metacity, start new apps on top

2006-04-30 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 10:37:49PM +0200, Morten O. Hansen wrote: > I'm having a "problem" with metacity, I'm using debian sid and metacity > 2.14.1. When I start programs, the almost always start up behind the > others! I want them to always start up, focused and on top, is this > possible ? Is th

Re: svn.gnome.org/lxr status ?

2006-05-16 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 09:53:18PM +0300, Bogdan Harjoc wrote: > Identifier search on the LXR service doesn't seem to be working. > Is there any chance this may get fixed at some point ? The people who know are more likely to be on gnome-infrastructure. -- Regards, Olav

Re: Default character encoding in Gnome Terminal

2006-05-18 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 06:48:40AM +0100, Sebastian Tennant wrote: > I asked this question a few weeks ago, so apologies for repeating > myself but it's still bugging me like mad... > > Does anyone know how to set the default character encoding in Gnome > Terminal? At the moment it defaults to: >

Re: Gnome 2.14 seems sluggish to me ...

2006-06-10 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 04:31:59PM +0200, Kiffin Gish wrote: > Seems VERY sluggish, the Gnome Desktop takes forever to start, and most > applications (xterm being one notable exception) take a long time to > startup. Often everything freezes up with erratic and slow repainting. If only the startin

Re: Gnome 2.14 seems sluggish to me ...

2006-06-10 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 06:44:34AM -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:14:01 +0200 > Olav Vitters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dijo: > > > On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 04:31:59PM +0200, Kiffin Gish wrote: > > > Seems VERY sluggish, the Gnome Desktop ta

Re: Choosing a .pdf viewer

2006-07-07 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:04:10AM -0400, Donald Allen wrote: > I'm running gnome 2.12.3 on an up-to-date gentoo system. I would like to be > able to choose the default pdf viewer used by Nautilus when I double-click > on a .pdf file (the current default, the Gnome PDF Viewer, has serious > renderi

Re: CVS mailing list

2006-08-21 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 02:46:12PM +0100, Joseph Kirzner wrote: > Do anyone know why it is no longer possible to get access to the > historical mails in the cvs-commits-list? It is possible to read other > mailing lists, but not this one for some reason. It was taking up a lot of diskspace while i

Re: gnome-terminal and tabs (from command line)

2006-09-16 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 10:17:47AM +0300, John Que wrote: > "Open a new tab in the last-opened window with the Open a new tab in the > last-opened window with the default profile." It means from that command line. > But when I open a gnome terminal, and then run from it > gnome-terminal --tab, I

Re: Gnome focus stealing prevention causing a problem

2006-09-29 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 10:41:24PM -0400, Sean wrote: > Using Gnome 2.16.0 on Fedora rawhide and having an issue with an VOIP app > that pops up an "accept call" window when a new connection arrives. > Unfortunately the window only flashes briefly and then is pushed behind > all the other windows b

Re: Gnome focus stealing prevention causing a problem

2006-09-29 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 07:46:47PM -0400, Sean wrote: > On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 00:23:00 +0200 > Olav Vitters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Report the bug to the VOIP application authors. They can contact > > metacity developers if they need details (metaci

Re: UNDO framework

2006-10-02 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 02:04:52PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > Hello, > Are there plans to implement an undo framework in nautilus for 2.17 or > is it still shelved? You probably want nautilus-list, not gnome-list. -- Regards, Olav ___ gnome-l

Re: unable to checkout svn

2007-06-26 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 01:27:29PM +0200, John Zoidberg wrote: > I am unable to check out anything from the SVN. > I get the following error message: > > > svn co http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-common/trunk/ gnome-common > svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/viewcvs/gnome-common/trunk' > svn

Re: Buildbot on build.gnome.org

2007-08-01 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 03:11:50PM +0200, Mads Hoel wrote: > Hi guys, I'm working on setting up buildbot. Buildbot will be testing > several projects at fenics.org. > > How did you go about setting up build.gnome.org ? Do you have any reports > documenting how you > implemented the solution? A

Re: Stop new window from grabbing focus

2007-11-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 01:31:43PM +, Calum Benson wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 07:32 -0500, Todd Chambery wrote: > > I'm using Ubuntu, but I miss focus-stealing-prevention acutely... > > Then AFAIK you're experiencing buggy behaviour which you should report, > unless Ubuntu has patched o

Re: Stop new window from grabbing focus

2007-11-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 02:11:31PM -0600, Todd Chambery wrote: > Not using Compiz (unsupported ATI card), but Ubuntu dropped > focus-stealing-prevention a couple versions ago. This guy describes my > situation fairly accurately: > > http://elliotth.blogspot.com/2006/12/gnome-focus-stealing-preven

Re: terminal disappears

2007-11-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 08:51:22AM -0500, Lowell Thomas wrote: > I'm an experienced C/C++ developer with a little UNIX experience years ago, > but a complete newbie to Linux and GNOME. I just installed Debian 4.0r1 with > gnome 2.14.3 and I'm having trouble with the terminal. Problem one, is that >

Re: jhbuild bootstrap error

2007-11-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 07:48:58PM +0100, Manuel Mazzuola wrote: > When i do jhbuild bootstrap i get this error: Where did you get your jhbuild from? It is installed in a strange place, /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/jhbuild. Never saw that before... is this some package or something? > [EMAIL

Re: using zenity to write a sudo script ??

2007-12-22 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 12:44:37AM -0500, William Case wrote: > # Open nautilus as root from user account > # file name: RootBrowse > > sudo -K > if zenity --entry \ > --title="Browse files as root" \ > --text="Enter your user _password:" \ > --entry-text "" \ > --hide-text >

Re: Can window decorations be removed?

2007-12-30 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 02:36:45PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > I assume Gnome and Metacity is a more advanced DE/WM so it would be > possible. Metacity left such things to libwnck. See http://www.burtonini.com/blog/computers/devilspie for a program which allows you to do all sorts of things. --

Re: [gnome.org #4253]

2008-01-26 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 03:33:00PM +, John Taylor wrote: > How long does it take to get an answer or even an acknowledgement that's > its being considered - it's been ten days! Don't random email addresses about things totally offtopic. -- Regards, Olav

Re: mixer_applet2 to system tray

2008-01-27 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 02:40:58PM -0800, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > I'm kind of confused what's an applet and what's an item for the > system tray since I was told on this list that applets work with the > panel and not the system tray. This is consistent with the fact that > /usr/libexec/battstat

Re: mixer_applet2 to system tray

2008-01-27 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 01:40:59PM -0800, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > > > So I'm sufficiently confused as to what to expect. Is there a way to > > > get mixer_applet2 run with any tray? > > > > No, as it is an applet (unlike nm-applet). > > But then why do I see the little volume control icon belon

Re: gnome-terminal and F1

2008-02-02 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 02:47:37PM +0100, Stefano Sabatini wrote: > gnome-terminal 2.18.3 currently captures the F1 event which will run up > yelp with the documentation for gnome terminal. Just edit the keybindings and remove it. See the menu. -- Regards, Olav __

Re: gnome-terminal and F1

2008-02-03 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 09:18:13PM +0100, Andrea Vettorello wrote: > On Feb 3, 2008 12:45 PM, Stefano Sabatini > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On date Saturday 2008-02-02 20:48:23 +0100, Olav Vitters gnomed: > > > On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 02:47:37PM +0100, Stefano Sa

Re: Graphical windows auto-maximizing - annoying

2008-05-29 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:06:53PM -0700, Todd N wrote: > In F9, graphical windows in GNOME are exhibiting some bizarre, or at > least unexpected, behavior. When a window is dragged across the Which window manager are you using, compiz? Metacity? -- Regards, Olav __

Re: gnome-open doesn't honor default apps

2008-08-22 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 07:52:15PM +0800, Yu-Yeung Wong wrote: > I reckon this problem is inherited directly from gnome_url_show(), > which is what makes this problem annoying, because some gnome apps > apparently use gnome_url_show() to open files. > > I'm using Debian if it matters. What GNOME

Re: data base for desktop data (couchdb?)

2009-07-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:09:30AM +0100, Luis Matos wrote: > so ... what are you're opinions? What is the point / purpose / use-case? Why would it be better if it all uses the same method? Evolution sometimes makes use of mmap to reduce memory usage. You propose they should all use the same meth

Re: data base for desktop data (couchdb?)

2009-07-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:24:27AM +0100, Luis Matos wrote: > I made examples of use cases: > - you can have different applications with different functionality, but Gnome-panel (clock applet) already shows data from Evolution (tasks, etc.. actually from evolution-data-server). An email is tota

Re: data base for desktop data (couchdb?)

2009-07-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:25:04AM +0100, Luis Matos wrote: > At some point i was a happy evolution and tomboy user. So i went to > tomboy's developers and asked "why tomboy was not using > evolution(embedded)-data-server to store their notes?" Evolution-data-server is already generic for mail

Re: Where are the gnome terminal profiles kept ?

2009-10-27 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 08:34:19PM +0200, Mark Ryden wrote: >I am using gnome desktop. I want to know where are the gnome > terminal profiles setting kept ? I am > talking about setting like font sizes, Scroll back lines, colors, > titles, etc, of the profiles which are accessible via Edit->P

Re: Gthread creation problem

2010-02-01 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 09:41:39AM -, John Emmas wrote: > BTW - this is my first post to this list. If it isn't the correct list for > this type of question, please just let me know the correct one. I assume you will get better answers on either: gtk-app-devel-l...@gnome.org or: gtk-win32

Re: How do you parse the XDG/gnome/kde menu/desktop item structure programmatically (using c)

2010-05-09 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, May 08, 2010 at 10:13:07PM -0700, Hans Joseph Solbrig wrote: > I would like to parse the menu structure for Gnome Panels (the > standard Gnome Desktop application launcher) using c/c++ function > calls. That is, I'd like a list of what the base menus and submenus > for Gnome panels are inst

Re: Where are the GUADEC recorded videos? ; jor

2010-08-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 09:45:23PM -0700, giovanni_re wrote: > Suggestions: > > They should be front page top dead center here. You don't want to make > these not easy to find. > http://www.guadec.org/index.php/guadec/index They're not available yet. We had the streams on the frontpage, but conf

Re: Please give us the option of which sound server to use

2010-09-23 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 09:57:58PM -0700, Brad Brockmeier wrote: > I've been using Ubuntu/Gnome Desktop Environment for a few years now, > and I have enjoyed it. However, since PulseAudio has been bundled > with Ubuntu/Gnome, I've had issues with sound. Usually, it works fine > for a few days, an

Re: Issues pre-generating thumbnails for Nautilus.

2010-10-27 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:34:43AM +0200, Paxsali Akler wrote: > PS: sorry for ze bad english, I'm a native german speaker. ;-) IIRC thumbnail generation is handled by Nautilus. So better to contact that list. This is user support question list, not aimed at developers. -- Regards, Olav

Re: gnome-window-properties

2011-01-13 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 03:56:24PM -0800, wayne.lydec...@l-3com.com wrote: >I upgraded to RHEL6 and everything is great except I cannot find >gnome-window-properties.  There is one feature that I am missing that >I find imperative, and that is being able to "select windows when the >

Re: behavior of gnome-panel

2011-02-03 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 05:50:06PM -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: > On Wed, 2011-02-02 at 11:45 -0800, Wil Willis wrote: > > Hey folks, when I double click on a hyperlink (url) in Thunderbird, I > > have to go to the panel and click on the pulsing blue minimized tab to > > maximize the page. > > >

Re: User feedback on gnome usability

2011-02-14 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:41:57PM +, 1920...@googlemail.com wrote: > Gnome has been infiltrated by people who have an interest in it > failing - it'll only get worse. Please ignore responses like above. I'll deal with it as a moderator. -- Regards, Olav _

Re: why use kernel 2.6.34 for test cd

2011-02-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 07:58:02PM +0100, Diska wrote: > Recent kernel has more support for 3d useful for gnome-shell and gnome3 but > gnome test iso use old kernel 2.6.34. > > i think it's better to user some recent kernel to make gnome-shell work by > default in more machine. I'm guessing Ope

Re: gsettings encryption

2011-03-10 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 10:17:44PM -0500, Kevin Anthony wrote: > Is there a way to encrypt the information stored in a gsetting key? Is this a development related question or as someone using gsettings? There is some gtk-app-devel-list for development related stuff. As a user: - Encrypt your home

Re: Anti-Evolution rant.

2011-03-20 Thread Olav Vitters
Hello, On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 02:19:55PM -0400, William Case wrote: > I seemed to have received some interest at the time so I filed a full > description with diagrams for that bug report. Nothing. It is rather unfortunate. Think emailing the evolution list is helpful. Feature seems nice. Cann

Re: ftp.gnome.org diffs ?

2011-03-24 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:41:01PM -0300, Frédéric L. W. Meunier wrote: > I don't know it this is the right list, but I'd like to know what > happened to the patches created between releases, which were > uploaded to ftp.gnome.org and mirrors. > > Were they intentionally dropped because a small am

Re: [GNOME3] Gain vertical space

2011-05-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 09:56:06AM +0700, Jérôme Prudent wrote: > Yesterday I switched on Gnome3 and tried to drag the top bar on left side > but apparently it's fixed. To tell you the truth, I quite like this top bar > (it's thin enough, useful, and elegant). What I do not like is the windows > ti

Re: Gnome support? we don´t need no stinking support! (read as in "badges, we don´t need no stinkin´ badges")

2011-05-27 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 04:28:06AM -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 14:15, fred smith > wrote: > > in F15, I spent about 5 minutes with a pre-beta LIVE CD of F15 with Gnome > > 3 and couldn't figure out for the life of me how one was supposed to > > DO anything with it. lik

Re: Suggestion for Gnome 3

2011-05-31 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 06:20:30AM +0100, Andrew Wood wrote: > Love the new way of finding windows but has occured to me it would > be good if the new application specific menu (next to the > 'Activities' button) also had a 'Show all XYZ windows' option where > XYZ is the name of the app, so that y

Re: gnome 3

2011-06-03 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 08:24:33PM +0200, Cornelia Pfeffer wrote: > For God's sake, could you return to a good system as you had before this > terrible thing??? There is an option to switch to fallback mode in system info somewhere. Note that your language is not acceptable for GNOME mailing list

Re: gnome-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 5 Item 1

2011-06-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:09:43PM +0100, 1920...@googlemail.com wrote: > Because obvious Gnome sockpuppet is obvious. It's just a way of > shutting down the debate about Gnome 3's... er... debatable design. Seems some other moderator approved this message. Apologies for the content. It shouldn't

Re: Hibernate via "power off" or similar?

2011-06-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:12:41PM +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > On 2011-06-14 10:48, Shaun McCance wrote: > > 1. Click your name on the top bar and select System Settings. > > 2. Open Power. > > 3. Select Hibernate for "When the power button is pressed". > > So far, everything looks good. But

Re: Gnome 3 usability - one user's comments

2011-06-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:18:05AM -0300, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > Yes, I agree, power users will "see" the great advantage gnome shell, > but for each one 1. You mentioned you weren't able to use GNOME shell 2. You're speaking on other peoples behalf I can easily say 'people will thin

Re: Gnome 3 usability - one user's comments

2011-06-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 05:07:51PM +0200, Cornelia Pfeffer wrote: > Dear Olav, I think you get this wrong. Sergio is not speaking on other > peoples behalf saying something wrong. You know like myself that he is > right for the bigger part of users. Did you really read my response? He spoke that i

Re: Gnome 3 usability - one user's comments

2011-06-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:37:05PM -0300, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > Em Qua, 2011-06-15 às 16:35 +0200, Olav Vitters escreveu: > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:18:05AM -0300, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > > > Yes, I agree, power users will "see" the great adva

Re: How to resize windows?

2011-06-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 08:58:21AM -0300, iki sham wrote: > Also, just for information, the gsettings command is quite useful and simple > (run without parameters for help). The apps that aren't ported to the > GSettings system still use gconf and can be tweaked with gconf-editor. Fyi, gsettings h

Re: Desktop search and privacy

2011-06-16 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:27:28PM +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > when I type sth. in the search field in the upper right corner > of the screen, it seems that application from the menu are > searched, right? However, in certain cases, the web browser > opens and the search term is looked up in

Re: Gnome 3 usability - one user's comments

2011-06-16 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 08:00:24AM -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > Several of us in fact have lamented about the same issues -- namely the Such feedback is very much appreciated. Though keep in mind: * gnome-list is not gnome-shell-list * various things have been given as feedback before, so whi

Re: Gnome 3 and computer shut down

2011-06-20 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 07:08:14AM -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > had. It seems we are going to have to wait until at least gnome 3.2 to > get those applets back. That's when it should have been called gnome > 3.0, again, IMHO. Applets are only available in fallback mode. Some weren't ready fo

Re: Gnome 3 and computer shut down

2011-06-20 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 07:32:17AM -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > On 11-06-20 07:26 AM, Olav Vitters wrote: > > > > Applets are only available in fallback mode. > > Is that permanent? i.e. applets will *never* be available in GNOME > Shell-proper? According to

Re: Gnome 3 and computer shut down

2011-06-20 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:49:03PM +0100, Rowland Penny wrote: > On 20/06/11 12:26, Olav Vitters wrote: > >You can disagree with that, but release wise there is nothing wrong > >with how 3.0 was handled. > You are quite right I do disagree. In my opinion there is plenty > wron

Re: Gnome 3 and computer shut down

2011-06-20 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 01:31:43PM +0100, Rowland Penny wrote: > As I said earlier, I only found out that Gnome 3 was coming when it > was well into development. The developers should have firstly looked > at Gnome 2 and asked what is wrong with it, what do users what/need > and then come up with a

Re: Gnome 3 and computer shut down

2011-06-20 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 02:50:40PM +0200, Christian Resnik wrote: > I'm not too happy with GNOME 3 either (missing shutdown option, no FWIW, I think the Suspend option is redundant.. just close the lid if you want that. It should just be 'Shutdown'. Hopefully I can bribe the designers with some be

Re: Gnome 3 and computer shut down

2011-06-20 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:07:24AM -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > On 11-06-20 09:21 AM, Olav Vitters wrote: > > > > FWIW, I think the Suspend option is redundant.. just close the lid > > Hrm. I can't seem to find any "lid" to close here on my desktop ma

Re: Gnome 3 and computer shut down

2011-06-20 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:27:28AM -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > On 11-06-20 10:20 AM, Olav Vitters wrote: > > > > I don't use standby on my desktop machine. Probably my impression that > > nobody uses that on a desktop is off.. but I'm sure someone will mentio

Re: Gnome 3 and computer shut down

2011-06-20 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:56:48AM -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > > Everything is turned off instead. > > No, in fact I'd hazard to guess that nothing is turned off, sadly. I > know I don't because the hassle of returning to the working set is just > too much. I suspend. Maybe in .ca? In the

Re: gnome 3: application list

2011-06-21 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 08:41:44PM -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > How does it determine the applications that are available? It looks at the .desktop files. Using alacarte you can have additional .desktop files, they're installed somewhere in ~/.local, ~/.config or something related. I don't thin

Re: Introduction

2011-07-16 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 03:57:50PM +0200, alexander.wilms wrote: > Instead of making decisions without looking after the actual demands > of the userbase the Gnome team should - at least in my opinion - be Development is done by people who are interested in making something which works for the big

Re: Introduction

2011-07-17 Thread Olav Vitters
[ re-adding gnome-list@gnome.org ] On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 09:45:58AM +0100, Rowland Penny wrote: > On 16/07/11 19:23, Olav Vitters wrote: > >On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 03:57:50PM +0200, alexander.wilms wrote: > >>Instead of making decisions without looking after the actual

Re: It is not only me that have problems with gnome3

2011-08-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 04:26:52PM -0300, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > Ok I know that gnome3 will be the stunning desktop user > for all, but for now, seems that the change from gnome2 is too > fast for the users... and forgot about the old gnome panel... > that does not work in "compatible" m

Re: Very disappointed in Gnome 3

2011-08-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 09:49:49PM -0600, Dennis J Perkins wrote: > I agree. Too many things are missing. And why require accelerated > graphics? GNOME 3 seems to suffer from the attitude that tablets are > the future and desktops and laptops are passe. I've used GNOME since > the 90's but I'm

Re: Very disappointed in Gnome 3

2011-08-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 03:47:25PM -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > My point : I had to run around in circles to get Gnome 3 to work > "correctly" in my system. I also mentioned software rendering would be available in GNOME 3.2. Furthermore, during the course of GNOME 3 I expect all the drivers t

Re: Very disappointed in Gnome 3

2011-08-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 02:20:23PM -0400, Mike Williams wrote: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 09:49:49PM -0600, Dennis J Perkins wrote: > > > I agree. Too many things are missing. And why require accelerated > >

Re: Very disappointed in Gnome 3

2011-08-14 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 02:09:57PM -0600, Dennis J Perkins wrote: > On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 22:42 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 03:47:25PM -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > > > My point : I had to run around in circles to get Gnome 3 to work > > &g

Re: Very disappointed in Gnome 3

2011-08-14 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 02:08:30PM -0600, Dennis J Perkins wrote: > On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 15:06 -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > > > What in Gnome3 inherently prevents development of efficient habits? > > What in Gnome 3 promotes the development of efficient habits? Is this going to be a yes/no/ye

Re: Very disappointed in Gnome 3

2011-08-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 09:32:56PM -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: > So I am very interested in whether it is possible to configure Gnome 3 > to have no icons on the desktop, not even for launching applications, > and a solid light color wallpaper. Depends on what you define as desktop. The backg

Re: About gnome shell and gnome 3

2011-08-20 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 06:47:55PM -0700, Ian MacGregor wrote: > On the positive side, there are other window managers and desktop > environments that are coded by people who don't make stupid decisions. The tone of your message is not what I'd consider constructive. > I'm assuming this email wil

Re: The Apology of GNOME 3 (an analogy to the Apology of Socrates by Plato)

2011-08-25 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:14:08AM +0200, Magnus Therning wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 09:49, Ondřej Grover wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Barry Say wrote: > >> Sorry, this was a really bad move. A really bad  PR own-goal which as far > >> as I can see has diminished the reputati

Re: The Apology of GNOME 3 (an analogy to the Apology of Socrates by Plato)

2011-08-25 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 09:58:36AM -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > >GNOME 2 experience can be achieved with GNOME 3 fallback mode. > > One feature of GNOME 2 which a number of existing users took > advantage of was "configurability". GNOME3 is less configurable, > __including__ that GNOME 3 'fall

Re: sushi don't start

2011-09-25 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 10:41:22AM +0200, bouleetbil wrote: > I've install sushi with gnome 3.1.92 but seems don't works. > Howto debug this sushi for see why it don't start ? (nautilus just don't use > it. It start evince for for a pdf...) Press space to start it -- Regards, Olav

Re: Password Problem

2011-10-11 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:10:21AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > When the gnome desktop signs me out due to inactivity it shows a screen > with my name on it and asks for a password. It wont accept my password, > the same password I used to start gnome. Which distribution? Seems like the files

Re: Password Problem

2011-10-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 01:50:15PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 05:35:28PM +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:10:21AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > > > When the gnome desktop signs me out due to inactivity it shows a screen

Re: Full screen swing application in Gnome 3

2011-10-31 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 04:30:34PM +0100, Vasco Visser wrote: > I found a bug when using Java swing applications in Gnome 3. When a > swing application is full screen or split screen by pushing the gnome-list is a user list. Your post is excellent, but should be filed in Bugzilla. If you want a di

Re: One very unhappy Linux user

2011-11-11 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 09:31:07AM +0100, Jan Mussche wrote: > I just had major neck surgery but I don't like to have knife on my > throat. I know you're upset, but take such comparisons elsewhere please. Not appropriate for a public mailing list. -- Regards, Olav (moderator) ___

Re: One very unhappy Linux user

2011-11-11 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:19:02AM +0100, Jan Mussche wrote: > Question: what is this mailing list for, if not for writing about your > ideas of having a much better Gnome than what we have to deal with now? As per the description: "This list is for general discussion of GNOME. It is an appropriat

Re: One very unhappy Linux user

2011-11-11 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 02:16:49PM +0100, Trond Husø wrote: > I am still on 10.04 LTS (Ubuntu), and so I am still on Gnome2 waiting > for the next LTS to arrive which will either have G3 or Unity GUI. Default will be Unity. The GNOME 3 bits are a combination of GNOME 3.0 (totem), 3.2 (evolution,

Re: A lot of very unhappy Linux user

2011-11-11 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:19:19PM -0200, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > ok... but if you do not have the gnomeshell?? what about those > 200 desktops that are unable to display 3D??? > > I bought several (20) diskless stations Intel Atom N525.. and linux > is unable to start the 3D in the c

Re: One very unhappy Linux user

2011-11-28 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 09:29:15AM +, AG wrote: > That is hardly the point, is it? The point is that users of > GNU/Linux want to use an OS that allows them choice and > reconfigurability, etc., and not to have chase the whims of > developers. I'm a use Linux and GNOME and I'm perfectly happy

Re: One very unhappy Linux user

2011-11-28 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 09:00:04PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > What about the netspeed applet under gnome shell? > And is there a 2D fallback, for those graphic cards and OSes not > supporting 3D? Currently available in Fedora rawhide. I expect all newer distributions to have this when they rel

Re: One very unhappy Linux user

2011-11-28 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:43:21AM +, AG wrote: > On 28/11/11 09:48, Olav Vitters wrote: > >On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 09:29:15AM +, AG wrote: > >>That is hardly the point, is it? The point is that users of > >>GNU/Linux want to use an OS that allows them choic

Re: One very unhappy Linux user

2011-11-28 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 08:26:16AM -0500, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 10:48 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: > > > > Furthermore, tablet? GNOME 3 is hardly usable on a tablet. > > Hardly usable on a desktop and hardly usable on a tablet? What an epic > fa

Re: Signing off, bye bye Gnome (at least for now)

2011-11-29 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 06:32:57PM +0100, Magnus Therning wrote: > I'm about to leave all the Gnome mailing lists, but I thought I'd > leave a short thank-you note first in an attempt to explain why I, who > has used Gnome for the last 5+ years, have decided to jump ship. Honestly sorry to see you

Re: fallback mode panel, keybinding for changing properties

2011-12-03 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 12:56:05AM +0100, Michael Schmitt wrote: > I have several machines without a super key, but super+alt+right > mouse button is used to access the context menu on the panel. I've > read in several places for some users it is just alt+right mouse > button, dunno but on Debian i

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