It was noted at the Accessibility Summit, http://tinyurl.com/uqen3,
that a high quality FOSS OCR is needed and I remember reading earlier
that Google have OSed Tesseract.
http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/09/18/191251
It's on a Apache 2.0 License.
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Great Henrik, I've added my original thoughts from the moz accessibility list.
My ideas have moved on a little and I'm looking at doing something
with Mozilla for Firefox initially but with long term cross platform
goals in this space.
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There's some previous thoughts on this over at mozilla accessibility
http://tinyurl.com/ye683x
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On 10/25/06, Henrik Nilsen Omma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David Bolter wrote:
> > Henrik, All,
> >
> > Hi. I'm just wondering if it migh
Out of interest do assistive technologies (AT) get to use an API or library (similar to ATK for the server applications) or do they use direct CORBA calls?
AT is very unlikely to use a particular GUI for any UI they present as that UI has to be accessible.
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> -- which I haven't used (yet).>> Note, gok hasn't migrated from cspi to libspi yet (blush).>> cheers,> David> GOK Maintainer>> Steve Lee wrote:>>> Out of interest do assistive technologies (AT) get to use an API or
>> libr
wrote:> > Hi Steve,> >> > The at-spi hides nasty stuff like CORBA behind an API. In early
> days we> > used the cspi bindings (for C), but we should all now use the> normative> > C library libspi. I imagine you are most intereste
broadcast-based message
flows by subscription.
This presentation from Bill Haneman is good.
http://www.gnome.org/~billh/ArchitecturalOverview.odp
and there's more here from Mozilla
http://www.mozilla.org/access/unix/architecture
That's the overview, perhaps someone could correct or ex
away at CSUN. I
encourage others to do like wise in similar magazines in other
countries. The proprietary model is so ingrained it needs those
guerrilla marketing tactics (which also happen to match Open Source's
attention to recognising users needs).
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or the official sites beginners guide
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide
One of the great things about Python is that you can just sit at the
console and try things interactively.
A useful quick reference is
http://rgruet.free.fr/#QuickRef
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for the short term. Obviously entry level advances rapidly so we
should focus more effort the higher spec. I guess many users would
only start to consider changing to Linux at the point that they need a
new PC (though Linux would perform very well on their older kit) so
that also suggests develop
to check for orca in the say() function and
having orca check at startup.
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On 28/11/2007, David Bolter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Looks slick. Is this already going to become part of GNOME via Dasher?
> cheers,
David MacKay has indicated that it will be a separate project as far
as they are concerned upstream.
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use or keyboard stops it going above.
Perhaps you could update the bug as I don't have an account (oh for
openid in all these bugzillas).
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depth understanding. Quite what
structure that takes will be interesting to solve.
> If this makes sense, is this something you can help with?
I'm interested in helping as this is an area I'm getting more 'into'.
However I need to work out a few things for next year.
Brian's
s to easily find the options or ATs they will benefit from
* docs/education/evangalism
> 4) Assuming that we can identify a list of tasks in the answers to the
> above questions, would you be willing to invest time in the Committee
> to chip in and take on tasks to make progress
t;
> Anyhow, those are some quick thoughts before I need to step out for the
> day. Thoughts?
>
> Will
>
> PS - I'm going to be on break next week and part of the following week,
> but I'll try to keep up with e-mail during that time.
>
> _
> 3) Brainstorming / developing improvements that push the envelope in
> the user experience. It's great to have a set of familiar assistive
> technologies for people to use today when migrating to GNOME from
> other platforms. But a benefit of developing on an open stack with an
> excellent (the b
On 21/12/2007, Peter Parente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So what could we do to push the envelope under the same premise, that
> is, reuse existing, commodity hardware and platforms? The Nokia N800
> line of Internet tablet products with Maemo comes to mind. It's
> GNOME-based, supports open devel
e and GNOME a11y,
whether on this channel or another (with care they could also be
interesting to people who can only access the speech).
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ve not named the exact AT that I am using
> because I don't know whether it is good practice
> to name commercial items in a free software list.
I don't know, I don't think it is a problem as they all help users.
BTW there are some interesting resources on the ACE Centre sit
On 23/01/2008, Steve Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 22/01/2008, Francesco Fumanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > maybe I should
> > list the main features that I would like to see
> > (they also are in the GetInvolved page):
> [snip]
>
> Can you
ed users,...
I agree with Will that we need input and discussion from people with
all sorts of skills to do the best possible job and to ensure we are
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forms and the Ultra Compact PCs (e.g. eeePC). These look
exciting from the point of view of portable communications devices
(AAC). The increased presence of Linux in these applications means
there is less distance between platforms. For example I have a
Linux/Mozilla based Nokia n810 and plan to
t shows the reality and
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a11y conference http://fullmeasure.co.uk/raate07 and which is CC.
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On 26/01/2008, Francesco Fumanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't understand exactly what you mean by general purpose ATs; what
> would be the non general purpose ATs? In fact, in my view the
> fonctionalities of the "plugin" would be available sessionwide
We may be saying the same thing but u
The trouble
is input and output are never quite so decoupled, as in the case of
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other machine to the application and not assuming everything is on
the same machine (as Windows mostly does, even with Terminal Services
or RDP).
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On 12/02/2008, Ian Pascoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Following on from Steve's point 3 below.
>
> With the higher availability
format it
should be in. At the moment it's text (with a little light markup)
plus images. I'm thinking the GNOME wiki is the place to be.
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> Hey All:
>
> Just a quick note -- Eitan Isaacson and I h
Awesome! Well done everyone and huge thanks to Will for leading us.
Now we can see GNOME and Open Source and really rock the accessibility
world and even take the lead.
I need to lie down.
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> Hi All:
>
> The l
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ility with the
Wiki? I might post it somewhere else like a11y.org or even break it up
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that expose AT-SPI.
4) What are the minimal writing support that needs implementing?
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On 21/02/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> Hi all,
>
> My name is Mats Lundalv (employed at the DART AAC and AT centre, as well as
> at the Swedish Instit
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We can refactor later.
The important thing is to get all that stuff out of peoples heads so
it can be shared..
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nfrastructure should have good unit/automated
test suits for regression etc.
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On 23/02/2008, Eitan Isaacson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think a few stuff were left in the air about the huge testing
> challenge we face, and how to put the outreach progr
I don't know if it is common knowledge but the amazing Dasher project
is in need of some TLC, particularly maintainers and developers, but
all contributions would be most welcome.
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; >> As an exercise, what do you all think of us having a somewhat
> >> impassioned and pragmatic discussion about the various features and
> >> the current state of gnome-speech and Speech Dispatcher?
> >>
> >> Will
> >> _
there any way we can get an idea of numbers of users? We could ping
the dasher team but they might be a little biased ;-)
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working on a predictive engine, I have slides so could scan them for
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Thanks Kristian, that gives a very clear picture of the situation and
issues. Good luck
My impression is that this will also act as a good basis for future
advanced and innovative mag features.
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#x27;actions' that have been specifically exposed through it (like click
this button).
General GUI operations are performed by the application using other
APIs, in this case GTK.
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Thanks Will, that is very encouraging.
A fully accessible login experience in all the scenarios that have
been identified will be a real plus for Linux + GNOME.
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2008/5/15 Willie
In order to help me organise my thoughts on this I did a brief
analysis of my understanding of the current state of alt input
options. I'm posting it here in case anyone else finds it useful as
well.
http://eduspaces.net/stevelee/weblog/348733.html
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was running Ubuntu
on his eeePC at CSUN last year when I spoke to him. You could ping
them on IRC to see how it has gone. I understand some of the hardware
requires non-free drivers, which is a bizare choice for a Linux
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he wheel in FF.
So I just looked in Firefox's about:config and setting
middlemouse.contentLoadURL to false does the trick for me. There's
also a middlemouse.openNewWindow but I'm not sure when that comes into
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2008/7/30 Janina Sajka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> We probably need to do better integrating the various customizations
> available. We also need to expand our existing specs where functionality
> is missing.
>
> The Open A11y group has finished a Keyboard I/O spec which goes only so
> far as what is in
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2008/9/1 Steve Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> and there's a list on www.oatsoft.org - search for 'activity' (sorry
> it's down at the moment)
This is the page http://www.oatsoft.org/Forge/articles/accessibility-activities/
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>>
>> Actually I mean a text reader in the sense that you could choose a text
>> file or just type some sentence and let the computer read it for you.
>> Orca is a screen reader.
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Eye Gaze Study Day - 5 November 2008, London
Eye Gaze has long been considered to offer vast potential as an access
metho
Peter this is totally fantastic and even better news than I had hoped for.
Thank you for all your hard work making this possible.
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public 'commons' .
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2008/10/18 Brian Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> Willie:
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>> I'm a
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on D-Bus work makes this much more
acceptable, as does the increased use of UI testing via AT-SPI, where
it is critical to be testing the 'live' system not something with an
option that is off for most users.
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t rid of the need to logout/in after turning it
on/off and add a protocol for AT's to request it and for it to to be
enabled turn when an AT fires up.
Does the D-BUS port give us this capability? We can perhaps defines
some system messages for a11y?
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TK/FFx etc still call
and look for events? Would the over head of the function calls that
test and return with no a11y be too much to bear? It would be
localosed in one place and all appswould behave the same.
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2009/1/16 David Bolter :
I personally am using the workaround Steve gave us here:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=460926#c4 on my install of
> Intrepid (Ubuntu).
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getAccessibleAtPoint and related functions may help
Take a look at Accerciser's _inspectUnderMouse and _getChildAccAtCoords
http://www.koders.com/python/fid8F2A47CCB9FACC23867491E2BC6729B8EFCDCB2F.aspx?s=_inspectUnderMouse#L25
There was a thread about these issues recently on the mozilla
accessi
2009/2/10 Behdad Esfahbod :
> Go ahead and prepare then!
Great work everyone. Keeping a11y in mind at all stages will help make
GTK+ even better for everyone.
@Flavio - superpowers AND a VIP - yay.
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be involved in pushing the open a11y boundaries.
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2009/5/29 Willie Walker :
> Wel
Hey That's amazing, though I don't see anything there for Orca.
BTW I read the GNOME report and was delighted by the high profile of
the accessibility work and that Stormy's very first sentence mentioned
it. Awesome.
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2009/7/22 Willie Walker :
> Hi All:
>
> St
2009/7/23 Eitan Isaacson :
> Close buttons are good for
> screen reader users because it puts the dialog dismissal as part of the
> focus order (and work order), and thus discoverable.
> Currently a keyboard user could get by without knowing about alt+f4 at all,
> I could see it being frustrating
l? Ho hum.
Such rules are hard to enforce when they are up to individual
developers' diligence.
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You make some excellent points Mats and I agree about speed being an
important priority. It's amazing how fast some users can scan.
2009/10/12 Mats Lundälv :
> - the selection button grid I envisage similar to a table component (in an
> office application) – possibly built on some existing one – w
Eitan
That is excellent news and I now have even more reason to pop over for
CSUN (apart from Stevie Wonder spotting and looking at your great
photos of service animals). Will you be next to Mozilla's booth?
I'm a passing this on to the Project:Possibility board as they are
local and there should
2009/10/15 Eitan Isaacson :
> I wold like to use the meeting to gauge preliminary interest for the a11y
> hackfest, and get some feedback on how we could make it successful.
Eitan, I had another OSS Watch meeting but read through the IRC notes.
So Project:Possibility will be at CSUN, though the e
Does anyone have the bandwidth to ensure a11y is well represented in
this great resource
http://is.gd/4G0aU
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> I think there's a few sides to this.
And another is to expose CS students to the concepts so they take them
forwards with them into industry experience.
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2009/11/13 Bryen M Yunashko :
> So I goofed and made it an hour later.
You too busy playing with the latest open SUSE?
> How's about a quick debate amongst us all and see what everyone prefers?
>
> Vote #1: 16:00 UTC
+0
> Vote #3: Steve provides refreshments at either time meeting.
nice cup
Bryan, after you sold it so well it's a real shame to say I can't make
it (again). We're running an OSS Watch workshop on Building an Engaged
Community and I'm leading an activity at that time (it's not my 3rd
strike yet, honest). So wishing everyone a merry Christmas and an a11y
new year.
PS I me
g/svn/jambu/trunk/src/lib/jambu/Switch.py
I'm not clear how this compares with the fully integrated X events
approaches that Willie mentions.
My view is the sooner we have a viable switch solution on GNOME the
better in order to be able to attract the users.
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2009/12/11 Mats Lundälv
>
> I strongly support you on these points Steve:
> Go for USB game as the primary source of switch input - as it's a standard,
> but clearly separated from the basic keyboard and mouse input - and good
> interface products - like the JoyCable - are there on the market. Su
2009/12/11 David Colven :
> Sorry if I’m being dum – I am down with flu at the moment – but I don’t see
> why a joystick switch inout should not do exactly what the daisy reader
> wants. Window will not react to input from a USB fire button unless it’s
> told to, will ot?
Yes that is exactly corr
2009/12/11 David Colven :
> I feel what we need - and is part of the ACE contribution to AEGIS - is a
> central switch handler (control panel type thing) which reads switches and
> that any scanning program can use. The control panel would deal with all the
> methods and filtering and pass scan
p's opengazer project;
http://bit.ly/6iZqbr and http://bit.ly/GL9tJ (thanks to @pepperbox for
the idea).
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2009/12/16 Brian Cameron :
>
> I would like to anno
tinuation? Most of P:P are based around LA so
there may even be a chance for a f2f.
1: http://www.projectpossibility.org
2: http://ss12.info
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2010/1/7 Steve Lee :
> We'd like to find a number of GNOME a11y tasks that are suitable for
> students to pick from a pool of suggested SS12 activities and get
> excited about working on.
>
> So I'm wondering if folks on this list can suggest ways to develop
> ideas an
2010/1/7 Willie Walker :
> Let's have a quick meeting on the #a11y channel in irc.gnome.org tomorrow to
Is that 21:00 UTC?
I'll try to stay awake and actually attend this time.
Steve
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nding the money if not needed.
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